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I was in my usual place. In the middle of the cross aisle with me facing the entrance. Can't get me wrong as the guy on my left is shorter and fatter, whilst the one on my right is shorter and thinner. I'm the large hairy object in the middle.

Most of us, and certainly the major texts, would consider a valid variety to be a reflection of the design (including possible errors) punched/engraved on the die, rather than subsequent die wear or impairment due to accumulated crud. However there are a few notable exceptions such as the ONF penny which seem to have developed a following. Otherwise striking errors are considered more of an interesting curiosity than true variety, though they do have specialist collectors. Clearly, but rarely, things can change. In the case of your penny, if it could be positively demonstrated that the Royal Mint (or Heaton) did produce a small run of intentionally 'no H' pennies, then an altogether different view might be taken. It certainly is unusual for the H to be totally absent, so enjoy the coin for itself and the debate it can generate. Jerry

Hello strangers, thought it was about time I made an appearance again, seem to be getting some time on my hands again and the coins are starting to call again!! In the meantime I have become a grandparent as well....so coin collecting is definitely now more fitting as well. Hope you are all well, and for those that joined after I made my departure....hello

Thanks Bob, that's incredibly useful correspondence.

Here is some correspondence I had with Michael Freeman about a 1870 Penny with a large "dot" under the "Y" in Penny. The note pretty well explains Michael's view on Dots!

Yes, it's a pity that Freeman decided to recognise the 1897 dot as a standalone variety, especially as he didn't uniquely categorise the notorious 1922 "reverse of 1927" or the 1946 "dot" (which he mentioned but did not categorise). Had he left the 1897 dot as a footnote, we'd have more consistency over these random blemishes, recognising them as accidents but still leaving people to collect them if they wish.

Well, there was this penny post, right, and then there was this post about pennies (which was different because it had 'ies' in it), and then there was something about CGS and a little bit of general TPGC discussion, and... Well, that should bring you up to date, really! Probably just around where you left off?

Much appreciated! I was thinking I might have to acquire a few pennies just to participate in the forum.

Nice to see the sarcastic underlying tones are still here

So, do we reckon this guy/gal could take an H out for us?

and, close your eyes...

Best I can do, as I didn't end up taking full images of the coin. Great skill, though!

A sudden burst of adrenaline I suppose...

Its nothing to do with weather one has been attributed. Its if your really not sure spend £13.75 and find out . Otherwise make your own decision I have just received quite a few pennies back that they have not slabbed before. What they have done is confimed the variety and said they are problem free ,so i am more than happy

From the Royal Mint's annual report page 8: "...replacing older cupronickel 5p and 10p coins with new lower cost aRMour® plated coins, has driven significant volume for the business, while simultaneously generating a cumulative total of over £35m for HM Treasury in recovery of legacy metals."

Hoist a tricolour a count the flashes!