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Lobel or Noble? Trying to work out if it is a misprunt. Jim Noble in Oz used to send out lists too, hence the request for clarification. Good luck finding someone who keeps Coincraft's price lists. most aren't even read before the bin calls. I usually peruse them before binning, but only keep them if there is something worthy of recording. And amusing as it may seem, 1967 pennies at a fiver a pop, or whatever, is not a good reason.

I saw them 6 times altogether - 5 with Gabriel, once without. If you want to see the nearest thing to an actual Genesis show these days, Steve Hackett's tours usually focus on a particular era, much as Nick Mason's 'Saucerful of Secrets' tours concentrated on pre-DSOTM Floyd. Hope you enjoy the show! (Just watched The Musical Box on YouTube, at Hammersmith Odeon - they seem pretty good )

I know - I am fairly thick skinned, so I can live with their abuse when they do that! The background of the seller - the quantity and quality of their feedback and the fact that others on here have bought successfully from them in the past suggested that maybe they were genuinely unaware of the issue.

That's unusual they usually tell you to f***off and tell you your an idiot with S**t for brains

Going to see"he music box" at the bridgewater hall tomorrow well its not really genesis but its very close its 48 years almost to the first time i saw them in 1978 at knebworth for a fiver tickets for tomorrow are £60 but hey you cannot take it with you and life is for living ......... just put some old cds on and enjoying myself

I try to avoid "slabbed" coins as made by the third party grading services like NGC however this time it's worth it for the verification that it is a genuine coin, even if harshly cleaned. In this case, there is a bit of historical significance to the coin. On the reverse is a small trident to the side of the mint mark of A. "A" signifies the Paris Mint and the trident was the privy mark of Zéphyrin Camélinat, who was the treasurer of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune">Paris Commune of 18 March to 28 May of 1871</a>. Despite the foot dragging of the bankers and the approaching troops of the conservative republican government, he managed to produce, it is believed, about 75,000 5 Franc silver coins, 30,600 of which were in two wagon loads that were taken to the front lines directly from the Paris mint so that the doomed soldiers fighting for the Commune could receive their back pay on May 20 as the final battles began. <a href="The Coins of the Commune">The Coins of the Commune</a> (the term sou survived from pre-revolutionary France as a slang word for 1⁄20 of a franc - thus 100 sou = 5 francs) One in nearly perfect condition recently sold for $9,000 and fakes are all too common. This one, with the damage from the heavy cleaning - the scratches are quite visible even through the slab - was "only" $295 and moves into 5th place in my "you spent how much on a single coin???" list. It is still a classic example of being reminded to grab the best you can afford because that's better than none. Nevertheless this will be the gem of my French coin collection.

Just for the hell of it I messaged the seller yesterday evening to point out it was a replica (being polite!) and I see this morning that it has been taken down.

Hmmmm! 😵‍💫 https://ebay.io/m/qhFQNH https://ebay.io/m/yVcSXe

Did you see the silver one in the Stroud sale?

many thanks Nick, its great to be able to see a comparison, subtle differences but great to be able to see how they compare, many thanks for the input, greatly welcome. 👍

You have an example of dies 1A I believe. Here is a picture of a 1C:

would be handy for sellers if they didn't bother

And this seller is someone I have bought from in the past and have never had any qualms about. I guess he has been hoodwinked himself - wonder what he paid for it, and from whom...?

I see the replicas are re-appearing. This one purports to be a proof: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/206353463647?itmmeta=01KVAT58VF6ZRR0WDV2XM92C2E&hash=item300b9ff95f:g:u3EAAeSwkcBqMm2A&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAAwGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDqKzVvcjzhpKWp0V99B8G8QpHw2n7Lx%2BwMDY0sBLDshtsY09foJNFJkQ2F4hgcBp5AYrMW7vo0ghUHfYd7fuPbD%2Bk8PcONFzXtYKy6kLqfhzMB4rPI3yPgEzHJx4je7BqCjuYBeonpYqWSugzalgJloB1ah9SKPxvQGfJxOxR9el6FtTeHofq8pRtrGMGLiMNoUvwYYN1fccJsxd1VuLvFI2D%2FhIlsUoq2M2vK69fjlQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4aOldraZw

Very nice! Interesting that you think the halfpenny the weakest…I’d be really happy with your halfpenny, and especially the halfgroat (really nice), it’s the penny I see as weakest. Lovely set, and a bargain-priced halfpenny

Very nice and a bargain price…interesting to see that some St George’s crosses are single-hatched, and others’ double-hatched, I wonder what the mintages for the commonwealth coins were, and how many dies?

Here's my set. The halfpenny is the weakest of the three, but I only paid £43 for it and it's good enough for me. Weight of the halfpenny is 0.24g.

Here is mine, and nice tone in the hand. Auctioneer’s photos. Jerry

I wonder what you might have bought with it a couple of buns a half of beer an ounce of chease

Lovely strike…also, really love that ticket, what period/date is it? Could you link me to the Lockett coin, that one didn’t show up in my root around last night?

Teeny, tiny, somewhere around 0.25g! You can’t even detect the weight on a fingertip…a miracle they even survive at all in collectable grades.

Mine was £150…a little blocked/soft on the cross, and not a perfect harp. However, it’s excellent metal, it’s round, central, and a credible example I think…it’ll do! ☺️

those must weigh practically nothing

I am trying to trace an early coin list. The reference given is 1887 pattern sixpence ex Lobel list 18 GB231 £1,250. This may be a Richard Lobel private list, a Coincraft list or an old Pheonix publication no 18. Help please. A photo of the list would be a help but I expect Coincraft are the only people who might have it.

Yup, madness. I bought the Marshall coin in 2004 and I am perfectly happy with it - £87 delivered. I did have a go at the Lockett piece that was sold recently, but that made silly money,, and I like mine for the quirky shape and outrageously large distinctive tickets that came with the Marshall coins (44m dia).