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    My 1879 narrow date penny from the recent DNW auction has arrived. I'd estimate at GEF with some residual lustre. Really pleased, as this particular variety is extremely difficult to get in high grade, but not too scarce in grades up to VF. Bit like the 1864.
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    Here's an article that I wrote for a Facebook group about a year ago - it might be of some use... "I often have a quick look through eBay on a Friday night. I find it’s at an altogether more sensible pace than the madness of Sundays. “A quick look through eBay”? How can you have a quick look through eBay? Wading through acres and acres of utter junk takes hours, doesn’t it? Perhaps I should share one of my trade secrets. Don’t tell anyone. This is a filtering mechanism that I have developed over many years, and tonight, it reduced the list of what was presented to me from nearly a quarter of a million results to 66,000. That means that 75% of the list is removed before I even see it, and if you sort your query by Ending Soonest, it means that I really can have a quick look through eBay to see if there is anything finishing tonight that takes my fancy. Make a cup of tea at this point if you’re still with me – I am going to go into some detail. All the examples I’ll use are my own personal preferences but I do understand that what I consider to be tat, others may consider to be treasure, so do forgive my ruthlessness. I start by listing everything in the British Coins category, sorted by Ending Soonest. Tonight it was around 225,000 items. I use a three-stage process to reduce this number to something a little more manageable. Stage 1: eliminate things I don’t want to see, like 50ps and 20ps. Stage 2: eliminate sellers whose tat I don’t want to see Stage 3: set a maximum price so I don’t see things I can’t afford. Stage 1: Eliminate terms used in an items description, in my instance, this could be things like “50p, 20p, pound, proof, gold”. You do this in the top search bar in eBay, using the syntax: -(xxx,yyy,zzz) I don’t want to see decimal coins, so a lot of my exclusions are dates. You cannot use wildcards. You used to be able to, but that’s a different story… Soon, after playing with this a little bit, you’ll run up against a character limit. eBay think that it is 100 characters, but I have found a workaround to extend that limit to 300 characters by enclosing three separate 100 character strings in three separate bracket pairs: -(100 characters here) -(100 more here) -(and another 100 here) Go one character over and it goes a little bit haywire, but you can always go back a page in your browser to recover it. 300 characters will keep you going for a while, but eventually, you’ll run up against that limit too, so you’ll want to use your 300 in the most effective way. Some terms exclude thousands of items, and some only exclude a few. “50p” excludes 35,000 records, while “brooch” only knocks out 127, so I rank the search term exclusions by how many records they exclude, and only use up my 300 on those that are worth using. As we are limited by character, a small term, like “50p” (3 characters), is a lot more economical than a long term, like “enamelled” (10 characters). This is where it can get complicated, and I leave it up to you, and the level of your own Asperger’s how far you want to go with this. It gets complicated because items have more than one word in their descriptions, and you may already have eliminated an item with an exclusion already used. Take gold sovereigns, for instance. A search using “gold” brings up 6,500 results, so we can knock out 6,500 items by including “gold” in our exclusion string. A search using “sovereign” brings up 4,000 results, but we cannot exclude a further 4,000 by using “sovereign” because most sovereign listings will also use the word “gold”. In fact, only 650 listings used “sovereign”, but didn’t use “gold”, so by including “sovereign” when we’ve already used “gold” we only reduce the list by 650. “Sovereign” is 10 characters, so at 6.5 items/character, “sovereign” is a very inefficient exclusion term. Once you are happy with your query, save it. I tend to save it in a text file, because eBay’s query management is not very intuitive. The last time I did this exercise, in January, it was all about getting rid of Beatrix Potter, now it’s all about eliminating pound coins from the list, so I refresh my query three or four times a year, as trends change. My 300 characters removes more than half of the items in the British Coins category, about 100,000 listings. That’s more than 300 per character, but it has taken many years to get it refined to that level of efficiency! Stage 2: Seller exclusion. Anyone who spends any time watching eBay will already know the sellers that they tend to skip through, and there is a facility to remove those sellers from your query, in addition to the exclusions settled on in Stage 1. Scroll down the left-hand side of the listings page, and you’ll see “More Refinements”. A tab in that section is marked Seller, and in that tab, there is an exclusion box. Select “Only show items from”, then “Specific sellers”, then choose “Exclude” from the drop-down. The text box to the right is intended to contain a comma-separated list of sellers to exclude. However, there is a bit of sloppy eBay programming in this form that needs a little workaround. You cannot add seller names to this list one at a time without breaking the query before long – it adds spurious commas and spaces all over the place and the database just can’t handle that, so I keep my “eBay blacklist” in a trusty text file, using the syntax: Seller1,seller2,seller3 No spaces, a single comma between names, and no carriage returns. There’s 100 odd sellers on my list, but I’ve been building it for a while. To update the seller list, update it in the text file first, then copy and paste the entire list into that little text box in eBay, in one hit. Editing the contents of eBay's text box directly never ends well… My seller list removes a further 40,000 items. Finally, Stage 3, removing items that are too expensive. This bit is easy, there’s a little box on the left-hand side that for once, is quite self-explanatory. I change this every time I run the query, depending on my budget that day, and it usually reduces the list by a further 20,000 items or so. If you made it to the end, congratulations, and I hope that’s helpful!"
  4. 11 points
    My birthday present to myself. Well, you've got to!
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    After 8 plus years, i think I've gone as far as I can, for the time being, on the 1860 to 1901 series of pennies. I still have some very obvious gaps, but the rarer pieces are very difficult to come by, so my acquisitions from this series have slowed to a trickle. As a result I've branched out to the pennies of George V. Most of these are relatively easy to obtain in UNC at much lower prices than the bun series, but there are some rare ones, or at any rate, rare in high grade. The KN's are among the few in that era which have an exceptionally steep price/grade differential. I'm therefore very pleased to have obtained this 1918KN, which, unusually for any pennies of that WW1 era, has an exceptionally good strike, with very good hair detail on the King's head. There is a tiny metal flaw between Britannia's arm and the trident, and the tiniest blemish to the right of the trident, neither of which detract. But that apart it's issue free and has noticeable residual lustre and nice even toning.
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    Another type gap filled: 1886 Sixpence
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    Heritage last night ........... bought 7 coins: 1820 sixpence - MS64 1902 low sea level halfpenny - MS64 1904 sixpence - MS66 1911 sixpence - MS64 1925 sixpence - MS65 1926 sixpence - MS65 1952 sixpence - MS66 (yet another). No photos yet as I haven't processed them. I believe this sale was part of the collection of a gentleman "RMW" who is terminally ill. I had always admired his collection for the exceptional quality of the coins. It is always a little sad to acquire coins in this situation but, hopefully, the proceeds will help make his family's future more secure. As he once pointed out, we don't really own the coins but are stewards for future generations.
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    1823 Half Crown DNW auction win - my pics
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    Thanks Chris for all your un-lauded behind the scenes work to host, moderate and maintain the most important and serious (generally) of numismatic forums. I am sure we are all very grateful for what you do, I know my existence would be much impoverished were it not for the Predecimal Forum. Jerry
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    What goes round comes round. This one was brought to me today at the market as a gift from a chap I had helped assess his collection of modern silver crowns. (He couldn't work out which were silver and which were not.) Anyway, a pretty nice 1908 Penny - I believe 2+D, F166 so not scarce but nice as a freebie!
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    after speaking with Rob i decided to buy this Edward IV Rose Noble S1951
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    Now got an 1897 O .N E penny (F147) courtesy of Bob @RLC35 I'd estimate at EF. Nice coin and another Freeman currency type box ticked.
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    1909 F169 The one that went unsold in the last LCA.
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    This is the coin that @Paddy drew our attention to a week or two back. He was selling it on e bay, and I was the only bidder. Just received today. It may be a common date, but this is no common representation of it. UNC, a truly superb strike, great hair detail, totally flawless and with immaculate toning. I initially though that the obverse was EF, but in hand, I'm half inclined to think that what appears at first glance to be wear at the highest points is in fact residual lustre. But either way, it's still a truly outstanding specimen, and amazing value at only £19.95. Thanks Paddy from a very satisfied customer (apologies, again, I've got that colour variation)
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    Got a nice 1862 F39A last week. Fantastic condition but cleaned - pity but it was cheap.
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    My latest purchase. Looks even better in hand and starting to tone.
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    Really pleased with the 1870 penny I just bought off e bay as an upgrade to my current one. An UNC choice example, with residual lustre and nice toning. The original listing is here and these are my photos:-
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    Also: 1825 Sixpence 1745 Lima Shilling
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    At what point do you start to think "it's getting a bit narrow down here"? Lynton / Lynmouth on Sunday.
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    I would like to volunteer for the post of "suitable heir" please.