RLC35 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 4 hours ago, jelida said: I was hoping someone would ask that. Both of mine are straight, I think. Jerry I checked 6 coins that I have, they are all straight! Quote
mick1271 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 11 hours ago, secret santa said: Could you post a photo of the wavy one please. top one is my straight one . bottom is the wavy one .It looks wavy with a loupe , but magnified more ,it has a narrower top part and it looks like the wavy part is caused by the number being more chamfered at the bottom . Quote
alfnail Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/24/2020 at 9:13 AM, secret santa said: Any idea of the ratio of 1856 PT small and large dates, Ian ? Ok, I have done this now Richard. It actually wasn't as easy as I thought it would be, but I'm pleased that you asked me for this information because I was a little surprised at the results. I had always thought that there were definitely more of the 'Large Numeral' type than the 'Small Numeral' type, but it turns out they were pretty close. I spent about 3 hours zooming in on all the images, and then double checked I had sorted correctly, Any that I was unsure about I did not include in the figures; some ebay pictures are not great! Anyway, 138 over 5 years split as follows:- 21 Could Not Tell / 55 Small Numerals / 62 Large Numerals. Hope that's useful for some members. 1 Quote
secret santa Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 54 minutes ago, alfnail said: Hope that's useful for some members. Great info, Ian - thanks. Quote
secret santa Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 On 7/26/2020 at 2:27 PM, 1949threepence said: One straight and one wavy . Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples. Quote
Paddy Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 59 minutes ago, secret santa said: Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples. You got my one from earlier in this thread? Quote
terrysoldpennies Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 1 hour ago, secret santa said: Anyone else got a wavy 2 ? I'd like to see more examples. I'm not sure is this a wavy 2 ?? Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 I've got 6 stacked up- all so similar- maybe there is one that has the base slightly incuse, but one is much sharper and pointed like Terry's above, and there are different widths, and some with the 2 leaning to the right...that one of Terry's leans to the left....all tiny changes, nothing major. Quote
1949threepence Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 2 hours ago, Paddy said: You got my one from earlier in this thread? ....and quite apart from that, it's actually a very nice coin with a lot of eye appeal..... 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 I'm wondering if this is actually some sort of optical illusion arising from other features of the 2 - when I hold something over the rest of the 2 on the one's touted as possible wavy line examples above, the base of the 2 appears dead straight. 2 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 27, 2020 Posted July 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, secret santa said: Yes, I'm not yet convinced. Nor me. Without more evidence I'd have to conclude that this is a case of someone seeing what they want to see, or making something out of nothing. 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 It does smack of a slightly mis-aligned 2 over 2... 1 Quote
VickySilver Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 LOL, that is my take on many "types" - when is enough clear variance enough to make it a type? IMO many of the "dot" varietals are somewhat in the category of this one. Quote
Paddy Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Well this one just gave me a jump! Sorting through an old dealer's box of random coins marked at 50p each (I bought the box of 100+ coins for £5) I was stopped in my tracks by this one. Obviously a fake, but not bad as they go and should give some good banter in the market! 3 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 38 minutes ago, Paddy said: Well this one just gave me a jump! Sorting through an old dealer's box of random coins marked at 50p each (I bought the box of 100+ coins for £5) I was stopped in my tracks by this one. Obviously a fake, but not bad as they go and should give some good banter in the market! The obverse is very real looking. 2 Quote
mrbadexample Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 1 minute ago, 1949threepence said: The obverse is very real looking. I don't think it's legit though, that 9 on the reverse looks iffy. 1 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 3 hours ago, 1949threepence said: The obverse is very real looking. It IS real. It's an altered date, but a very nice example. 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 58 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said: It IS real. It's an altered date, but a very nice example. I know Chris. I was being a bit tongue in cheek. But yes, you're right, it is a very good example. Quite convincing. Quote
Cliff Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 On 7/28/2020 at 8:22 AM, blakeyboy said: It does smack of a slightly mis-aligned 2 over 2... AardHawk made a posting Apr 2008 in which he drew attention to a Sept 1976 Coin Monthly article, "Further Varieties of the 1902 Penny" by A R Alexander and A M Lisk. Whilst the article does not specifically mention "wavy 2s", it does go into some depth regarding Shape of 2 and pointings, suggesting at least 13 varieties. Worth a look and a consideration I think. 1 Quote
secret santa Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 33 minutes ago, Cliff said: Sept 1976 Coin Monthly article, "Further Varieties of the 1902 Penny" by A R Alexander and A M Lisk. Anyone got a copy ? Quote
secret santa Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 Changing the subject, I "swapped" collection websites today with Kevin Booth who has now put his impressive penny collection up onto a website and is happy that I share its URL with Forum members. it's Kevin's penny collection 5 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 1 hour ago, secret santa said: Anyone got a copy ? Yes yes. I've photographed all three pages as best I can, but copying pages is not the easiest task in the world. So apologies for their lack of perfection. They are readable though. Can't see much about a wavy 2, but the article is very interesting and useful. Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 29, 2020 Posted July 29, 2020 4 hours ago, Cliff said: AardHawk made a posting Apr 2008 in which he drew attention to a Sept 1976 Coin Monthly article, "Further Varieties of the 1902 Penny" by A R Alexander and A M Lisk. Whilst the article does not specifically mention "wavy 2s", it does go into some depth regarding Shape of 2 and pointings, suggesting at least 13 varieties. Worth a look and a consideration I think. That's gone the same way as the even earlier article pointing out many "varieties" of 1907 penny based on the tail of the 7! Now (deservedly) vanished without trace. Quote
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