Collectors Coins Great Brit. 2014

[jaggy]

Just curious, but can this be downloaded for ipad? kindle is just a poor mams ipad

I would have thought so. If it works on a MacBook, it should work on an Ipad as the MacBook functionality has followed Ipad rather than the other way around.

Maybe check on one of the Mac forums.

Edited December 18, 2013 by jaggy

[Colin G.]

I have downloaded the ePub version and it works perfectly on liberty reader (windows 8 app). I have then also opened it on my iPhone using a reader app called readmill had to tweak the font size slightly but is working great.

[Peckris]

I have a Kindle and also a Mac - which version should I get? (I'm running OS X 10.6 not Lion or anything later, so I probably don't have access to iBooks, though I do use the App Store). And are the digital versions fully illustrated like the paper ones?

'Scuse the questions, but I'd like to get a digital copy

You may be able to get iBooks from the App Store but I would be very careful to ensure it works under your current operating system. Otherwise, go for the Kindle version.

Alternatively, buy a new super-duper Mac. That is what I did after my old one start to go on the blink after 5 years of intensive use.

Edit: looks fully illustrated.

I have a 2011 Core i5 iMac - that's pretty super-duper! Unfortunately, I'd have to abandon Photoshop (CS2 - one of my 'killer' apps) if I had anything later than Snow Leopard, as it needs Rosetta in order to run.

Yep .. that is one of the problems with Macs.

That said, on my 2008 Mac (the one I just replaced), I started with Leopard, and upgraded through Lion. My new machine has Maverick but I had no problem loading Photoshop Elements (v 10.0) from my old machine onto the new one.

CS2 does appear to be available for later Macs so that might be worth looking at.

That's what I'm using. Unfortunately - thanks to the infinite 'wisdom' of Adobe - it's not a Universal Binary but a PowerPC app. In fact, I'd need to upgrade to (I think) CS5 to have a version that will run in Lion or later, i.e. an Intel version. Curiously, Elements 6, which I also have, IS a Universal Binary but sadly it won't support my old scanner which the full Photoshop will, so I need both apps.

[Chris Perkins]

I'm fairly new to all this too. All I know is that the epub version should work fine on any epub compatible reader, and there seem to be some of those for the ipad - and if it works on the smaller screen iphone I'm sure it'll be fine (let me know if it isn't).

The Kindle version started life as a .mobi. Amazon convert them to Kindle format, which I think is essentially .mobi. The .mobi files are pretty large originally.

It has all the images, same as the printed version. Roman Base Metal, Roman Silver, England's Striking History and British & Empire Campaign Medals are also available as eBooks:

http://www.rotographic.com/downloads.htm

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins is coming next (with large images)!

[jaggy]

I'm fairly new to all this too. All I know is that the epub version should work fine on any epub compatible reader, and there seem to be some of those for the ipad - and if it works on the smaller screen iphone I'm sure it'll be fine (let me know if it isn't).

The Kindle version started life as a .mobi. Amazon convert them to Kindle format, which I think is essentially .mobi. The .mobi files are pretty large originally.

It has all the images, same as the printed version. Roman Base Metal, Roman Silver, England's Striking History and British & Empire Campaign Medals are also available as eBooks:

http://www.rotographic.com/downloads.htm

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins is coming next (with large images)!

Look forward to that!

[Peckris]

I'm fairly new to all this too. All I know is that the epub version should work fine on any epub compatible reader, and there seem to be some of those for the ipad - and if it works on the smaller screen iphone I'm sure it'll be fine (let me know if it isn't).

The Kindle version started life as a .mobi. Amazon convert them to Kindle format, which I think is essentially .mobi. The .mobi files are pretty large originally.

It has all the images, same as the printed version. Roman Base Metal, Roman Silver, England's Striking History and British & Empire Campaign Medals are also available as eBooks:

http://www.rotographic.com/downloads.htm

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins is coming next (with large images)!

I just downloaded the Kindle app for my Mac - it works fine, so that looks like the way for me to go

[Chris Perkins]

Thanks Peck.

[Colin88]

Will it download onto my IBM 360 in the garage running OS/VS1??

[jaggy]

Will it download onto my IBM 360 in the garage running OS/VS1??

Only if it is a 360/65

[Peter]

I still like a book.

[jaggy]

I still like a book.

I do too. But, as I travel a lot, this new fangled iBook thingy may be more practical than hauling books around.

[Coinery]

I still like a book.

In view of all this PC techy jargon, I've finally decided I'm sticking with paper too!

[Gary]

Just thought I'd prostitute my book, which is about to hit the warehouse (in printed form) and is, for the first time, available as a Kindle eBook on Amazon and also as an .epub for other eBook readers on the Rotographic website. I've carefully updated every section.

To order a printed version including free UK delivery, go here (£7.35):

http://mydgs.co/fchHjX

To order a printed version including Worldwide delivery, go here (£10.00):

http://mydgs.co/G82ivu

To buy it as an eBook in Kindle format from Amazon, go here (around £4.40):

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00HB6ONR2?tag=predecimalcoi-21&camp=1406&creative=6394&linkCode=as1&creativeASIN=B00HB6ONR2&adid=118131QCA7HN4WHJG6ZV&

To buy it as an .epub eBook (for most other readers) go here (£3.50):

http://mydgs.co/ch8ddu

UK orders may be in time for Christmas, but I can't promise at this stage!

Thank you.

how about delivery to Europe (Germany) Chris same as world?

[Peckris]

It's nice to have it on my computer so I can look up prices and varieties for this forum without having to leave my chair

First impressions? The digital version is as good as the paper version, perhaps even better as you can click straight to the denomination you want.

Second impressions - Chris still hasn't updated 20th Century bronze penny varieties! We have the 1920 unique obverse, 1922/27 reverse, 1933, 1952, 1954 for example, but NOT the 1946 ONE' flaw, the 1953 George VI reverse, or 1911 Gouby X.

Still a superb value buy though and WELL worth the money (the Kindle edition is between £4 - £5, how can you go wrong?)

[Chris Perkins]

Gary: At the moment yes, as they're all in the UK. If you can wait a couple of weeks I can send one from within Germany, so that would be the £7.35 option.

I'll make sure they go in next time Peck!

[azda]

Think i'll Download it this time, i have last years in Paper form (which i generally prefer) but as Jaggy said, if you're on the go or at fairs etc it'll be good for a quick price reference. Wonder if Spink will go digital.

[azda]

I'm fairly new to all this too. All I know is that the epub version should work fine on any epub compatible reader, and there seem to be some of those for the ipad - and if it works on the smaller screen iphone I'm sure it'll be fine (let me know if it isn't).

The Kindle version started life as a .mobi. Amazon convert them to Kindle format, which I think is essentially .mobi. The .mobi files are pretty large originally.

It has all the images, same as the printed version. Roman Base Metal, Roman Silver, England's Striking History and British & Empire Campaign Medals are also available as eBooks:

http://www.rotographic.com/downloads.htm

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins is coming next (with large images)!

I just downloaded the Kindle app for my Mac - it works fine, so that looks like the way for me to go

Did you Download the kindle Version Peck or the ePub version, i downloaded the kindle app, but just wanting to make sure which to download

[Accumulator]

I'll make sure they go in next time Peck!

If you ever need a hand to produce a list of the main collected varieties of 20thC pennies, do let us know?

[Peckris]

I'm fairly new to all this too. All I know is that the epub version should work fine on any epub compatible reader, and there seem to be some of those for the ipad - and if it works on the smaller screen iphone I'm sure it'll be fine (let me know if it isn't).

The Kindle version started life as a .mobi. Amazon convert them to Kindle format, which I think is essentially .mobi. The .mobi files are pretty large originally.

It has all the images, same as the printed version. Roman Base Metal, Roman Silver, England's Striking History and British & Empire Campaign Medals are also available as eBooks:

http://www.rotographic.com/downloads.htm

The Standard Guide to Grading British Coins is coming next (with large images)!

I just downloaded the Kindle app for my Mac - it works fine, so that looks like the way for me to go

Did you Download the kindle Version Peck or the ePub version, i downloaded the kindle app, but just wanting to make sure which to download

I downloaded the Kindle version Dave, but I also had to download the (free) Kindle app for my Mac, also from Amazon. I'm sure there's also a PC version of it.

[VickySilver]

Please don't accede to the requests for all the microvarietals and die damaged coins such as the O'NE....

[RLC35]

Please don't accede to the requests for all the microvarietals and die damaged coins such as the O'NE....

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

[Rob]

Please don't accede to the requests for all the microvarietals and die damaged coins such as the O'NE....

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

I concur with Vicky. Whilst the collecting of serifs present or not, digit wide or not quite so wide etc has a place in die studies, including these varieties is a very long piece of string. You could probably have a volume the size of Freeman just to list the bronze post-1860 even after cutting out the blurb. I also think that it should be restricted to genuinely intentional design changes or mint corrections as these are deliberate mint actions. Filled stops and the various states of these are nothing more than general wear and tear, which whilst not infinite in number, would rapidly feel so. The O'NE flaw is one such variety and I don't think value should have any bearing on whether it is listed or not. That it is so highly valued is a complete mystery to me, as is the midge's narrower 3 in 1863.

IMHO, nothing resulting from die use should be included as a variety.

[Peckris]

Please don't accede to the requests for all the microvarietals and die damaged coins such as the O'NE....

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

I agree. And there are serious schools of thought that say it's not a flaw as the dot is too round; they say it's more likely to be a die identification mark of some sort.

As for the 1946 ONE' - Gouby always had that, Freeman has it as a note, Spink included it after I nagged them (well, I sent them Gouby's work on it), and it's significant and obvious enough to be collected. Gouby in fact rates it as one degree of rarity higher than a 1926ME!

Edited December 19, 2013 by Peckris

[Accumulator]

Please don't accede to the requests for all the microvarietals and die damaged coins such as the O'NE....

I kind of agree with you on many of the micro varieities, but I think the O'NE should be included. It has been in Sprink for a long time, and has a value of 100-1500 pounds!

I concur with Vicky. Whilst the collecting of serifs present or not, digit wide or not quite so wide etc has a place in die studies, including these varieties is a very long piece of string. You could probably have a volume the size of Freeman just to list the bronze post-1860 even after cutting out the blurb. I also think that it should be restricted to genuinely intentional design changes or mint corrections as these are deliberate mint actions. Filled stops and the various states of these are nothing more than general wear and tear, which whilst not infinite in number, would rapidly feel so. The O'NE flaw is one such variety and I don't think value should have any bearing on whether it is listed or not. That it is so highly valued is a complete mystery to me, as is the midge's narrower 3 in 1863.

IMHO, nothing resulting from die use should be included as a variety.

I completely agree about the O'NE (and any other damaged die 'varieties'), but you both seem to be talking at cross purposes about any micro-varieties which aren't due simply to wear or damage. Are you saying that the Gouby X, to take just one example, shouldn't be included Rob? Vicky clearly is.

[Rob]

I think that something should only be included as a major variety (which is the basic remit of a price guide) if the difference was say the result of an intentional change of design such as a migration from obverse 1 to 2 to 3 etc or the parallel use of slightly different, but nominally similar designs, such as legend errors where corrections have taken place. Things like a redesigned bust would clearly be intentional, so if the depth of the effigy was changed as a mint experiment to alleviate ghosting, I can see that this should be included in just the same way that a total new engraving in a different style would be. If any design is radically different, this should obviously be included. Similarly, overdates are the intentional use of an old die at a later date and a conscious decision to repair it.

The O'NE is clearly not an intentional design as it is a flaw which develops. Similarly, the difference in spacing of the final datal figure is down to it being entered by hand. These are almost inevitably never going to align when comparing dies and whilst it may help to establish the number of dies and would be integral to a die study, it is not the result of intention. Also excluded should be those attributable to die fill such as the length of bowsprit on the ship halfpenny reverse or the numerous missing stops or colons in the punctuation. Slight font differences are problematical because they could be due to a new set of punches, or the result of an existing punch disintegrating.

Part of the problem is that someone in the past has decreed for their own reasons that some feature should be considered a variety, and the sheep like behaviour of collectors (box tickers) means that these are by definition, desirable varieties. Obviously it is a case of each to their own, but I do feel that anything beyond the obvious entries in a price guide such as in your face design differences or prominent legend corrections or overdates is overly complicating what should be a rough and ready reference to carry around with you. i.e. compact, concise and cheap, for easy to read ballpark reference info. The finer details should be left to specialist publications. I'm not saying that people shouldn't collect them, but the potential expansion in the number of varieties included negates the concept of a quick reference, so why not restrict the general references to the general coinage? People who collect a series in depth will know what is rare/more valuable in any case.

What is also clear is that in the absense of any accepted standard of what should and shouldn't be listed, it becomes a free for all. As long as all the minor varieties are not covered universally by the references, we can extract the info we desire from the reference that contains that most relevant to our needs. As always, there is no real right or wrong, just many different opinions.

Edited December 19, 2013 by Rob