1949threepence Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Great opportunity here for the astute collector 1 1 1 Quote
Rob Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: Great opportunity here for the astute collector The 1933 should be a recognisable known copy because the obverse legend is the same thick, clumsy font as the date. If it was a changed date, the obverse used would be irrelevant. Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 This marleybob is now beyond a joke. I think they've crossed a line now. Is there any way of stopping this twat? Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 (edited) Now listing under the name 'Sheldon's Shop', if you please. And that weird toning which she adds to all her silver coins; how has that been done, heat? Does it not occur to her anyone viewing the listings would wonder why they all have this same odd colour regardless of origin, age, or state of preservation? I see the 1820 sixpence has a couple of bids sitting on it so has now been spotted as an inverted 1, though I doubt she is aware of the variety otherwise would've written another essay. Rare it may be but in that condition, and with a whopping great lump of ex-mount solder, I wouldn't want it if she was giving it away. Edited July 26, 2019 by Michael-Roo Quote
Sword Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 On 5/3/2019 at 10:03 PM, Sword said: Will she be selling genuine 1933 pennies next I wonder? 3 hours ago, 1949threepence said: Great opportunity here for the astute collector Told you so. Some people are so predictable. 1 2 Quote
Paddy Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 2 hours ago, Michael-Roo said: Now listing under the name 'Sheldon's Shop', if you please. And that weird toning which she adds to all her silver coins; how has that been done, heat? Does it not occur to her anyone viewing the listings would wonder why they all have this same odd colour regardless of origin, age, or state of preservation? I see the 1820 sixpence has a couple of bids sitting on it so has now been spotted as an inverted 1, though I doubt she is aware of the variety otherwise would've written another essay. Rare it may be but in that condition, and with a whopping great lump of ex-mount solder, I wouldn't want it if she was giving it away. Here is a video on Youtube teaching our snake oil brethren how to fake up toning on silver coins: 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 3 hours ago, Sword said: Told you so. Some people are so predictable. From the listing "Old.. used.. and has a charity shop smell" Not sure whether she's talking about the coins or herself...... 2 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 She's really gone to town with it on the Morgan dollar and the 1844 crown Paddy. Fakes always readily available. Quote
Diaconis Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 Yet, “I never clean any coin dirt is age tone and patina and i always handle them with gloves on A nice coin for any collector” 🤭 1 3 Quote
Sword Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 I wonder when will the bids from n***y(162) and 1***z(1) kick in. They have 100% bid activities with her but do not appear to have brought anything. Quote
Sword Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 Marleybob1 started the bidding at £40 because " I CAN'T LIST IT AT THOUSANDS OF POUNDS I CANT DO THAT.. THAT WOULD BE DISHONEST AND I WAS BROUGHT UP BETTER THAN THAT.. .BUT I CAN SHOW AND TELL YOU WHAT THERE IS." Now she has started the bidding at £25k. Reason: "I have been looking and i have found something else about the man Robert armitage and he wasn't just to do with coal like I thought and 11.11 wasn't his birth date . And this came from where I said it did so on that basis I have increased the price." Quote
copper123 Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 On 7/8/2019 at 8:41 PM, 1949threepence said: That's an interesting one. I don't know to what extent a court would take the apparent knowledge of a specialist into account. It might depend on whether the seller said they didn't know the person who informed them they were wrong, was an expert, or merely someone who was trying to knock them down so the coin would be sold as an ordinary offering so they could get it at a low price. It might be very difficult to establish intent, and I'd bet that most such cases would be chucked out by the CPS for lack of hard evidence before they saw the light of day. By hard evidence, I mean evidence of deliberate attempt to deceive. Quite interesting this - there is a seller at the moment trying to sell a 1860 TB farthing ,just an ordinary one as a mule when it quite obviously is not . Coin is worth about £30 and he has it for sale at £1600 it would be quite easy to take him to a small claims court and claim your money back , but there again why bother when you know its only worth 2% of it BIN value . Maybe he believe the old addage "A fool and his money are soon parted" 1 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, Sword said: Marleybob1 started the bidding at £40 because " I CAN'T LIST IT AT THOUSANDS OF POUNDS I CANT DO THAT.. THAT WOULD BE DISHONEST AND I WAS BROUGHT UP BETTER THAN THAT.. .BUT I CAN SHOW AND TELL YOU WHAT THERE IS." Now she has started the bidding at £25k. Reason: "I have been looking and i have found something else about the man Robert armitage and he wasn't just to do with coal like I thought and 11.11 wasn't his birth date . And this came from where I said it did so on that basis I have increased the price." The divilment welling up in me (I really should get out more), I thought I might have a bit of fun with this one, but on attempting to contact her I find I am blocked. Reading the entire revised listing it could be taken to mean she is attempting to sell an item she either suspects is, or knows to be, stolen. Customer service related larks anyone? Edited July 27, 2019 by Michael-Roo Quote
Rob Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 (edited) Maybe she means Robert Armistice? Judging by the literacy level of the listing, anything written could mean, well, anything. Maybe marleybob has located and procured some of Diane Abbot's missing zeros to add to the price? Edited July 27, 2019 by Rob Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 27, 2019 Posted July 27, 2019 The following questions arise: 1. If buried under a church's foundation stone for most of its life, why is it now in such bashed and battered condition? 2. If stolen in 1970, why was it put into a common or garden Whitman folder instead of being sold to a private collector? 3. Why is the cardboard recess for it in such poor condition compared to the other coins? 4. Why does it bear a startling resemblance to the replica 1933s produced a few years ago? 5. Why does the damage look like it's been done deliberately? 6. How come such a poor speller has no problems with PROFESSIONAL and NUMISMATIST? 3 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Excellent points, succinctly made Chris. Re. the Whitman folder in which the 1933 penny was supposedly discovered; here are her notes for the 1911 she has listed. It was removed and is being sold separately because she considers it to be the best coin from the set. WHAT? A bog standard 1911 the best from a set which includes a genuine 1933???!!! Oh, and I see she's adding the weird toning colours to bronze too now. Welcome to sheldons shop First .My phone tells me when my items are ending .Any item without a bid gets relisted on the last 15 mins of the auction so to secure an item simply place a bid THIS IS FOR A STUNNING 1911 GEORGE V BRONZE ONE PENNY COIN THAT I TOOK OUT OF A WHITMAN SET THAT I GOT FROM THE PARRISH TABLETOP SALE.... AND I WILL BE LISTING THEM SEPERATE AS THE SET CONTAINS A 1933 PENNY THE COIN HAS A SUPERB TONE AND IS IN VERY VERY GOOD CONDITIONMy grade is A.UNC I REMOVED IT BECAUSE IT IS THE BEST OF OUT OF THE SET SO I'M LISTING IT SEPERATE AS I SAY MY GRADE A.UNCbut that's my grade so please view yourself The coin is in my personal grade is..ALMOST ..UNC..but thats my grade I do try get as close as i can i use my phone so please have a zoom and view for yourself anyone who has purchased my coins .Know.my coins are much better in person. the coin is in good condition A nice collectors coin will sit well in any nice collection I never clean any coin dirt is age tone and patina and i always handle them with gloves on A stunning coin for any collectorTHIS IS AN AUCTION SO WHO WILL START THE IF THERE IS A TONE ON THE COINS I SELL THEN THE TONE YOU SEE ON MY COINS IS THE TONE THAT IT IS MY FEEDBACK IS FLAWLESS BECAUSE MY CUSTOMERS MATTER SO I DO MY VERY BEST . WITHOUT THEM I WOULDNT HAVE THE FEEDBACK I DO It will be sent 1st class recorded See my other items Thank you for visi Edited July 28, 2019 by Michael-Roo 1 Quote
copper123 Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 Surely if it was take from a church with no permission that would make it stolen property and ou would be commiting a crime by buying it Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 (edited) Several times she states what an honest person she is. Attempting to sell a valuable item she suspects may have been stolen from her local church? Honest? I am reminded of the saying: 'The louder he talked of his honour, the faster we counted the spoons'….. Edited July 28, 2019 by Michael-Roo 2 Quote
1949threepence Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 14 hours ago, Peckris 2 said: The following questions arise: 1. If buried under a church's foundation stone for most of its life, why is it now in such bashed and battered condition? 2. If stolen in 1970, why was it put into a common or garden Whitman folder instead of being sold to a private collector? 3. Why is the cardboard recess for it in such poor condition compared to the other coins? 4. Why does it bear a startling resemblance to the replica 1933s produced a few years ago? 5. Why does the damage look like it's been done deliberately? 6. How come such a poor speller has no problems with PROFESSIONAL and NUMISMATIST? That's a bit too logical for 2019, Chris. Well said though. 1 Quote
copper123 Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 As marleybob has admited the coin he has for sale is stolen I have done my duty and reported the item to ebay - hopefully item should be taken down very soon Quote
blakeyboy Posted July 28, 2019 Posted July 28, 2019 No Whitman folder has a space for the 1933, so it's been cut out crudely........ 1 Quote
Michael-Roo Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) On 26 July 2019 at 7:19 PM, Sword said: I wonder when will the bids from n***y(162) and 1***z(1) kick in. They have 100% bid activities with her but do not appear to have brought anything. Plenty of bids from those two left on the 1844 crown and the 1902 Morgan dollar. Quelle surprise. There oughta be a law….. Edited July 29, 2019 by Michael-Roo Quote
Sword Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) An old article I came across. Something that eBay sellers and buyers should be aware of. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2010/apr/20/ebay-seller-convicted-auction-fixing Edited July 29, 2019 by Sword 2 Quote
Peckris 2 Posted July 29, 2019 Posted July 29, 2019 23 hours ago, blakeyboy said: No Whitman folder has a space for the 1933, so it's been cut out crudely........ Possible, though it could equally be the cut out for the obverse, which I seem to remember Whitmans always had? 1 Quote
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