declan03 Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 Reported this one. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1872-GOTHIC-FLORIN-SILVER-VICTORIAN-FLORIN-VERY-HIGH-QUALITY/253455715286?hash=item3b03234bd6:g:G6kAAOSwkkNalXeo Quote
markflorida Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 On 01/03/2018 at 6:58 PM, Paddy said: Yes - I am happy to join in reporting them, but I need to be confident they are fake for my own peace of mind. What are the tell-tales on these ones? Is it just because he has obscured the NGC references? It is not just the ref numbers, look at the up close, they are fake. Quote
markflorida Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1893-S-PCGS-XF40-one-silver-dollar/112853078913?hash=item1a46915381:g:XdUAAOSwa-VansZj New Fake coin listed today. The cert number is for a Chinese coin, the coin actually looks like a polished coin and would never get graded like this. Sadly because it is a key date someone will bid on it and get ripped off. Quote
markflorida Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Todays latest fake graded coin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-CC-PCGS-VF25-one-silver-dollar/263537115257?hash=item3d5c094079:g:kCIAAOSwUoxaoATU Quote
Paddy Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, markflorida said: Todays latest fake graded coin https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1889-CC-PCGS-VF25-one-silver-dollar/263537115257?hash=item3d5c094079:g:kCIAAOSwUoxaoATU It looks ugly and a brand new seller makes one very dubious, but the PCGS cert matches a similarly described coin (though no picture). What makes you certain it is fake? I am happy, as always, to report but I need to be sure in my own mind it is a fake before I stir up trouble for the seller. Quote
markflorida Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Paddy said: It looks ugly and a brand new seller makes one very dubious, but the PCGS cert matches a similarly described coin (though no picture). What makes you certain it is fake? I am happy, as always, to report but I need to be sure in my own mind it is a fake before I stir up trouble for the seller. Hi Paddy. Yes sir, the cert number matches. 1st Red flag it is a Key date Genuine 2nd, A newbie seller with a key date 3rd, The coin is too clean. It has most certainly been cleaned and would only be graded as Genuine or VF details cleaned. 4th, The date numbers are too small and wide. 5th, It would be AU50 at worst, so its down graded so the unsuspecting buyer thinks he is getting a good deal. 6th, The obverse label is too small for the holder and is not stuck down. The image here is a Genuine VF25 Morgan and graded as such, the eBay listing is a better grade and clearly cleaned. This is more than enough red flags. I hope this helps Paddy Fake piece of animal waste on eBay for sale Edited March 8, 2018 by markflorida Quote
Paddy Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, markflorida said: Hi Paddy. Yes sir, the cert number matches. 1st Red flag it is a Key date 2nd, A newbie seller with a key date 3rd, The coin is too clean. It has most certainly been cleaned and would only be graded as Genuine or VF details cleaned. 4th, The date numbers are too small and wide. 5th, It would be AU50 at worst, so its down graded so the unsuspecting buyer thinks he is getting a good deal. 6th, The obverse label is too small for the holder and is not stuck down. The image here is a Genuine VF25 Morgan and graded as such, the eBay listing is a better grade and clearly cleaned. This is more than enough red flags. I hope this helps Paddy Great - thanks for the clarification, I will now report. 1 Quote
markflorida Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 You are welcome. I wish people would do research before they buy, why would you buy a coin on eBay with low feedback or in the case zero feedback. Their is enough big sellers on eBay with feedback in the tens of thousands selling coins who are respectable. Quote
PWA 1967 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 56 minutes ago, markflorida said: You are welcome. I wish people would do research before they buy, why would you buy a coin on eBay with low feedback or in the case zero feedback. Their is enough big sellers on eBay with feedback in the tens of thousands selling coins who are respectable. Mainly i feel because ebay is such a huge coin market people are looking for something for nothing and think everything is cheap.The coins you mentioned the average person (inc.me ) would not have a clue about and will just buy it for £+++ think they have got a bargain ,put it away and look for another coin thats cheap. Sad and pisses me off , if you look at anything on ebay not just coins its full of sellers trying to have people over Well spotted though and thanks for posting them. Although not my thing you have some lovely coins for sale on eBay......Your obviously one of the decent sellers so HAT OFF to you Pete. 1 Quote
PWA 1967 Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR As i was saying above the place is full of RANG. 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 39 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR As i was saying above the place is full of RANG. That is so funny he doesn't even know what his label stands for. PCCB professional coin supplies and professional coin display None really convincing wonder if the B stands for BS Quote
markflorida Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 44 minutes ago, PWA 1967 said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/UNCIRCULATED-GEORGIVS-V-1933-ONE-PENNY-COIN/292475220412?hash=item4418e1b1bc:g:H14AAOSwaVRaoIGR As i was saying above the place is full of RANG. Good spot. Thank you for posting Quote
mrbadexample Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 220 years old. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO Quote
Peckris Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 34 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: 220 years old. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO Reported Quote
declan03 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Certainly not silver. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-sterling-silver-crown-from-1887/202246121405?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 Quote
hibernianscribe Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Peckris said: Reported Me too! 1 Quote
hibernianscribe Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 I noticed this one this morning: https://www.ebay.com/itm/253476938178?ul_noapp=true I believe a 'not encapsulated' category means for various reasons it is not eligible for grading. The reference number however, does tally with a clipped Richard III groat, but no mention of not being encapsulated. Frank Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 17 hours ago, mrbadexample said: 220 years old. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-Cart-wheel-Penny-Coin-Antique-Old-Copper-King-George-III-Royal-Mint-London/312080411819?hash=item48a9712cab:g:NgoAAOSweRhanEmO 15956* 99% rating. Are we not safe anywhere now or is this a case of seller ignorance? Quote
mrbadexample Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: 15956* 99% rating. Are we not safe anywhere now or is this a case of seller ignorance? It's probably not ignorance, since I told them. Quote
davidrj Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 I know Victoria had lots of kids, But ......... 2 Quote
declan03 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 What would cause this wavey effect on a threepence? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1868-silver-threepence-3d-of-Victoria-in-stunning-condition/202242874987?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D2ac97ac6f3c14d8593b40755e64cdbb0%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D202242874987%26itm%3D202242874987&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507 Quote
Paddy Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 Looks to me like a double strike rotated, if that is possible? The band in the wavy area just below the R of Brittannia looks like the rearward headband on Victoria's head? 1 Quote
Rob Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 23 minutes ago, declan03 said: What would cause this wavey effect on a threepence? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1868-silver-threepence-3d-of-Victoria-in-stunning-condition/202242874987?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160727114228%26meid%3D2ac97ac6f3c14d8593b40755e64cdbb0%26pid%3D100290%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26mehot%3Des%26sd%3D202242874987%26itm%3D202242874987&_trksid=p2060778.c100290.m3507 Die clash. The first picture shows the outline of the crown best, with the tie knot and immediate area seen above the head. 1 Quote
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