azda Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Nothing like going overboard with the photo editing suite. The coin is similar to these woman who slap to much make up on, all too enhance the price no doubt, the actual slab pictures are totally different than his own http://m.ebay.co.uk/itm/161855915506 Edited October 21, 2015 by azda Quote
davidrj Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 Oh dear are we starting to get fakes of rare bronze now?this is a rare coin with a mintage of just 250,000, and poor survival rate in the tropics - but this 4 Bese of Italian Somalia has to be cast surelya real one in high grade hereV.E. III's coins are the most falsificate in Italy because there are a lot of collectors and in genaral have high prices .. However It's strange because this coin is rare but not too muchuSomeone liked it, just gone for $625 (£404) Quote
Nordle11 Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) @DaveJeeeeze that's OTT. How can he say that 'the pictures are of the actual coin' when the first set look completely different from the second set? Are you getting 2 coins then yeah? Pfff. Edited October 21, 2015 by Nordle11 Quote
azda Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 @DaveJeeeeze that's OTT. How can he say that 'the pictures are of the actual coin' when the first set look completely different from the second set? Are you getting 2 coins then yeah? Pfff.Exactly, so people who bid on his items should now surely know he enhances his pictures, but in this instance he's made a complete mess of them Quote
Paulus Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 @DaveJeeeeze that's OTT. How can he say that 'the pictures are of the actual coin' when the first set look completely different from the second set? Are you getting 2 coins then yeah? Pfff.Exactly, so people who bid on his items should now surely know he enhances his pictures, but in this instance he's made a complete mess of themI thought he also AT'd his coins, but of course he can't if it's in a slab ... Quote
azda Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 His pictures make it look hideous, just as well he added the slabbed pictures along with the other 2 Quote
Rob Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) The question of colour is a bit misleading. It is quite easy to see how you can get totally different colours from what is essentially the same coin because the lighting can have a dramatic effect. Some members of this forum will be familiar with the pattern halfpenny in post 5 of this thread. http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/6366-rainbow-toned-us-morgan-dollar/?hl=p1169#entry59576 However, how many would say that it is the same coin as that in the attachment below? I took the attached 5 minutes ago. I have no idea what conditions were for the earlier image. Edited October 21, 2015 by Rob Quote
azda Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 You are correct Rob, depending on the lighting it can bring a different picture, but he's used gamma rays and kryptonite on these and over saturated them to try and bring out the colour slab buyers in droves 1 Quote
Rob Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 We are trying to define what constitutes an accurate representation of the object in question and I am not convinced that is possible. Whatever programs are used to take images and convert them into a web based picture will all affect the output to a different degree depending on the method of converting data. Contrast, saturation, more blue, red or whatever colour will all change the outcome and by extension your perception of what someone is trying to do. Everyone tries to show their item in the best possible light.e.g. If everyone used a scanner, then colours would appear to be mostly washed out in comparison to those seen in hand. Would it be misrepresentation to enhance the contrast and colours? All I know is that getting a faithful reproduction of what I see in the hand is a complete lottery and more the product of good fortune than photographic skill. I think you have to take everything with a small pinch of salt.For the record, in hand the pattern halfpenny shows the multicolours seen when held at a specific angle to the light, but in any other direction looks somewhat browner than the image I took today. i.e. it does not accurately represent the coin.FWIW I thought kryptonite was green? I am willing to stand corrected. Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted October 21, 2015 Posted October 21, 2015 We are trying to define what constitutes an accurate representation of the object in question and I am not convinced that is possible. Whatever programs are used to take images and convert them into a web based picture will all affect the output to a different degree depending on the method of converting data. Contrast, saturation, more blue, red or whatever colour will all change the outcome and by extension your perception of what someone is trying to do. Everyone tries to show their item in the best possible light.e.g. If everyone used a scanner, then colours would appear to be mostly washed out in comparison to those seen in hand. Would it be misrepresentation to enhance the contrast and colours? All I know is that getting a faithful reproduction of what I see in the hand is a complete lottery and more the product of good fortune than photographic skill. I think you have to take everything with a small pinch of salt.For the record, in hand the pattern halfpenny shows the multicolours seen when held at a specific angle to the light, but in any other direction looks somewhat browner than the image I took today. i.e. it does not accurately represent the coin.FWIW I thought kryptonite was green? I am willing to stand corrected.This is from memory. The original classic kryptonite was green. ..There is also red gold blue maybe more colors...More importantly in reference to how an image is displayed, you can take the exact same image on different monitors and displays depending upon the settings, and they will vary Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 The obverse on this coin does NOT match the reverse, not even close...Link Quote
RLC35 Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) The obverse on this coin does NOT match the reverse, not even close...LinkHe also has it listed as a "KN" but the picture shows a "H"...... Edited November 6, 2015 by RLC35 Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 6, 2015 Posted November 6, 2015 (edited) Well spotted The guy was an idiot. Edited November 6, 2015 by Nordle11 Quote
Paulus Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) Not a "worst offering", I know it's THE rare year of this series, but Heavens to Murgatroyd!link Edited November 8, 2015 by Paulus Quote
azda Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 A UNC hammered at £600 in March and not quite as nice as this one, I'd say the price is about right at the minute Quote
Nordle11 Posted November 8, 2015 Posted November 8, 2015 Yeah that guy has put up some stonkers, there's a couple of pennies I've got in my watch list right now.. Quote
azda Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 God loves a trier, they mostly seem to be on eBay.171998286617 Quote
bagerap Posted November 19, 2015 Posted November 19, 2015 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171998286617?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3D171998286617%26_rdc%3D1 Quote
Coinery Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Saw this 351587618787 on eBay and thought 'hmmm, Edward II Farthing, Saxby must be getting himself a little help?'But looked at the obverse and thought, 'ah, maybe not!'Reassuringly Saxby's! Quote
Paulus Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 Saw this 351587618787 on eBay and thought 'hmmm, Edward II Farthing, Saxby must be getting himself a little help?'But looked at the obverse and thought, 'ah, maybe not!'Reassuringly Saxby's! Never knowingly undersold (whatever that means) Quote
Nordle11 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Has anyone else seen this -click and collect- from your local Argos that ebay offers now?Has anyone used it and is it pretty much as says on the tin? Quote
bhx7 Posted December 3, 2015 Posted December 3, 2015 Has anyone else seen this -click and collect- from your local Argos that ebay offers now?Has anyone used it and is it pretty much as says on the tin?I have used it quite a few times. It saves loads of hassle when it comes to missing the post. You get a text to say it is at the local Argos and you simply pick it up at a time appropriate to you. No extra cost so win win. 1 Quote
Nordle11 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 Thanks Brian, good to know. Good idea it sounds like.. Quote
Nordle11 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 How about an Elizabeth 1964 KN penny, from Albania? Only 2-4 weeks delivery!! Quote
PWA 1967 Posted December 4, 2015 Posted December 4, 2015 How about an Elizabeth 1964 KN penny, from Albania? Only 2-4 weeks delivery!!Its nearly as rare as the shells the guy is selling aswell Quote
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