Gary D Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 A very strange auction this one...........Read the descriptionhttp://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/221122433941?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D221122433941%26_rdc%3D1Very snarky. If he wants to guarantee a minimum price, why not put it on with a reserve? Sounds like he wants to have his cake and eat it. As for pulling it, what is the latest you can pull a coin on eBay before the auction ends? I bet it's a lot later than 24 hours to go! An auction is an auction, for heaven's sake - you have to take the rough with the smooth. If he wants to avoid the rough, he should put his coins up for sale as BIN only.Only flaw in his plan is he only knows the highest bid not the maximum bid. Quote
Peter Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 If he just started it at 99p over 10 days he would have got a lot more watchers and most likely a better result. Quote
Rob Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 I'm intrigued as to how he determines a fair price that he is happy with given the other numismatic item is a coin weight and is described as a coin, unknown denomination. Just let him carry on. Quote
Accumulator Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) I sincerely hope no one is stupid enough to go for this. Narrow date, 'English Coins' sale, indeed. London Coins sold a real one of course! Edited September 17, 2012 by Accumulator Quote
Rob Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 I sincerely hope no one is stupid enough to go for this. Narrow date, 'English Coins' sale, indeed. London Coins sold a real one of course!I had a woman on the phone a few weeks ago getting all excited about an 1877 penny, which had Britannia on the front(sic) and it was a rare type cos she's got a thin neck and would I come and value it for her because she has seen they sell for £3500. After a few minutes explaining that the type was determined by whether the date was either wide or narrow but I would happily give her a valuation at my normal rates, I asked which it was and the phone went dead. Wasn't the first, won't be the last. It is just a case of the ebay mentality where every other coin is the rarest type. Quote
Coinery Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 These are making a bit of a comeback in their various guises! Suddenly a bit of a glut about, they've been quiet for a while!Not just a copy, not EVEN a sixpence!Sorry, Richard, but 120987052366 Quote
ski Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 These are making a bit of a comeback in their various guises! Suddenly a bit of a glut about, they've been quiet for a while!Not just a copy, not EVEN a sixpence!Sorry, Richard, but 120987052366http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120987052366;jsessionid=4808E8FFE400C7781B5FCC01A9F9C3B1?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D120987052366%26_rdc%3D1 Quote
Coinery Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 These are making a bit of a comeback in their various guises! Suddenly a bit of a glut about, they've been quiet for a while!Not just a copy, not EVEN a sixpence!Sorry, Richard, but 120987052366http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120987052366;jsessionid=4808E8FFE400C7781B5FCC01A9F9C3B1?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D120987052366%26_rdc%3D1 Quote
Bronze & Copper Collector Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) An 1862 obverse 2 penny, but there is only an image of the reverse..... link to auction Edited September 17, 2012 by Bronze & Copper Collector Quote
Accumulator Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 I sincerely hope no one is stupid enough to go for this. Narrow date, 'English Coins' sale, indeed. London Coins sold a real one of course!I had a woman on the phone a few weeks ago getting all excited about an 1877 penny, which had Britannia on the front(sic) and it was a rare type cos she's got a thin neck and would I come and value it for her because she has seen they sell for £3500. After a few minutes explaining that the type was determined by whether the date was either wide or narrow but I would happily give her a valuation at my normal rates, I asked which it was and the phone went dead. Wasn't the first, won't be the last. It is just a case of the ebay mentality where every other coin is the rarest type.I wrote to him and he's chosen to ignore my message. Instead he's actually changed his main photo to show a copy of a page from Michael Gouby's site. I have no idea why, because this clearly demonstrates that his coin is not the narrow date variety though he continues to claim the opposite! Quote
ski Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) excuse my ignorance on Scottish geography, but im wondering if a certain assylum has been relocated from dundee to ayr.....maybe hes started up again with a new account, a feedback score of just 2 and attempting to sell an item for £1500 im also wondering if the very nice Mr Gouby's website is copyrighted? Edited September 17, 2012 by ski Quote
Accumulator Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 excuse my ignorance on Scottish geography, but im wondering if a certain assylum has been relocated from dundee to ayr.....maybe hes started up again with a new account, a feedback score of just 2 and attempting to sell an item for £1500 im also wondering if the very nice Mr Gouby's website is copyrighted?As he chose to ignore my first message I sent a second suggesting that he may wish to check copyright (along with his eyesight!) Quote
bagerap Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 His feedback was entertaining. Two feeedback, two different years, two supposedly different sellers and identical wording. His purchases were also interesting. Quote
ski Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) His feedback was entertaining. Two feeedback, two different years, two supposedly different sellers and identical wording. His purchases were also interesting.im not sure......the purple or the black set? although £1-50 is a lot of money for clothes with oh sooo many holes in it:D item ended...........maybe he got his £2100 he wanted Edited September 17, 2012 by ski Quote
Coinery Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 These are making a bit of a comeback in their various guises! Suddenly a bit of a glut about, they've been quiet for a while!Not just a copy, not EVEN a sixpence!Sorry, Richard, but 120987052366http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120987052366;jsessionid=4808E8FFE400C7781B5FCC01A9F9C3B1?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fsch%2Fi.html%3F_sacat%3D0%26_nkw%3D120987052366%26_rdc%3D1Just found this in the 'completed listings' running 30 minutes behind the link above...naughty, naughty! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Elizabeth-I-1562-sixpence-/120987273507?pt=UK_Coins_BritishHammered_RL&hash=item1c2b674923 Quote
ski Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 ski, on 17 September 2012 - 05:51 PM, said:QuoteThese are making a bit of a comeback in their various guises! Suddenly a bit of a glut about, they've been quiet for a while!Not just a copy, not EVEN a sixpence!Sorry, Richard, but 120987052366http://www.ebay.co.u...2366%26_rdc%3D1Just found this in the 'completed listings' running 30 minutes behind the link above...naughty, naughty! http://www.ebay.co.u...=item1c2b674923 oh yes.......naughty naughty.........does ebay rules allow this?????? Quote
Rob Posted September 17, 2012 Posted September 17, 2012 His feedback was entertaining. Two feeedback, two different years, two supposedly different sellers and identical wording. His purchases were also interesting.A more accurate description of the item purchased would have been 'a collage of threads' Quote
Nick Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 This is an odd one. First time I've ever seen any coin doctored to look like an 1887 shilling. Admittedly, the 1889 shilling has a reverse similar to the scarce 1887 (1+A) shilling, but even so. Quote
Rob Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 This is an odd one. First time I've ever seen any coin doctored to look like an 1887 shilling. Admittedly, the 1889 shilling has a reverse similar to the scarce 1887 (1+A) shilling, but even so.That's just plain stupid. You virtually have to leave planet earth to avoid contact with 1887 shillings, though the large JH type are decidedly rare, sorry, non-existant. Quote
Peckris Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 This is an odd one. First time I've ever seen any coin doctored to look like an 1887 shilling. Admittedly, the 1889 shilling has a reverse similar to the scarce 1887 (1+A) shilling, but even so.That's just plain stupid. You virtually have to leave planet earth to avoid contact with 1887 shillings, though the large JH type are decidedly rare, sorry, non-existant. I've always thought that particular seller was one of the better ones. It just goes to show.. Quote
Rob Posted September 18, 2012 Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) This is an odd one. First time I've ever seen any coin doctored to look like an 1887 shilling. Admittedly, the 1889 shilling has a reverse similar to the scarce 1887 (1+A) shilling, but even so.That's just plain stupid. You virtually have to leave planet earth to avoid contact with 1887 shillings, though the large JH type are decidedly rare, sorry, non-existant. I've always thought that particular seller was one of the better ones. It just goes to show..No different to the vast majority of eBay sellers. High grade/uncirculated/choice, occasionally the adjective used to describe the coin and the actual item for sale concur, but mostly not. From what I've seen it is mostly your typical marketing bullsh*t, and this is just an example of it. Any reputable person would say changed date and point out the obvious problem, but that might limit his returns. We all complain about pewter copies luring in and ripping off the ignorant beginner, but this is no better. Edited September 18, 2012 by Rob Quote
azda Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) So i had to ask the question...............Dear lucido_8,I'm assuming this has been date altered from the 1889?Replyno date change...it is an 1887 coin- lucido_8So repliedDear lucido_8,Really? How would you explain the rubbing around the 7 in date? Strange no?I really dont know why anyone would change a 9 to a 7 when the 1887 is valued lower. It could be a jewellers test mark to see if it is full silver. Still a nice coin and worth a fair bid.kind regards Rob- lucido_8 Edited September 19, 2012 by azda Quote
Paulus Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 So i had to ask the question...............Dear lucido_8,I'm assuming this has been date altered from the 1889?Replyno date change...it is an 1887 coin- lucido_8So repliedDear lucido_8,Really? How would you explain the rubbing around the 7 in date? Strange no?Ah, yes, Lucido, seems to manage to polish his turds very well and get a good price! Quote
Nick Posted September 19, 2012 Posted September 19, 2012 So i had to ask the question...............Dear lucido_8,I'm assuming this has been date altered from the 1889?Replyno date change...it is an 1887 coin- lucido_8So repliedDear lucido_8,Really? How would you explain the rubbing around the 7 in date? Strange no?...and the fact that it has the large head obverse that didn't appear until 1889. Quote
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