Peckris 2 Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 That's a very strange one! If it's artificial lustre, then it's mostly worn away in a natural fashion. Which means - if it was artificially done - then the penny must have circulated after it was lustred. However, they ceased to be legal tender in 1971 and even by then, a 1900 penny wasn't worth very much. That begs the question, why bother? My own feeling is that the state of wear is VF but with considerable remaining (fairly convincing) lustre. So could this perhaps have been a weak strike and the lustre is original? One thing's for certain - UNC it ain't!! Quote
1949threepence Posted December 11, 2018 Posted December 11, 2018 Might be worth it just for the Royal MInt letter 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 On 11/29/2018 at 10:50 PM, Peckris 2 said: [Adopts tone of voice of the railway bore you dread sitting next to you...] Ah well you see, it's quite easy to tell. I can see from the riffle squod mark that the bullet was made in the North Croydon Works of the Machine Arms Co and they only made them with that particular riffle squod up to 17th August 1914 and the entire consignment apart from one case was used before November 1914 in the Belgian trenches on the Western Front - the one case was used in 1915 but only at Gallipoli so if I was a betting man I'd feel my money was safe in saying that is a 1914 bullet. As I was saying to my friend Roger only last Tuesday - and there's no-one knows more than Roger about riffle... [cont p.94] I'm enjoying imagining what the accompanying cartoon in Private Eye would look like...... 1 Quote
blakeyboy Posted December 12, 2018 Posted December 12, 2018 On 12/11/2018 at 2:56 PM, Peckris 2 said: That's a very strange one! If it's artificial lustre, then it's mostly worn away in a natural fashion. Which means - if it was artificially done - then the penny must have circulated after it was lustred. However, they ceased to be legal tender in 1971 and even by then, a 1900 penny wasn't worth very much. That begs the question, why bother? My own feeling is that the state of wear is VF but with considerable remaining (fairly convincing) lustre. So could this perhaps have been a weak strike and the lustre is original? One thing's for certain - UNC it ain't!! That looks exactly like one I had come in this week- I really studied it and did several tests, and I'm convinced it's copper-plated. Quote
Ukstu Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) Fake siege piece. I've posted this guy up before. He makes his own stuff using precious metal clay then lists them as "Finds" https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarborough-Silver-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Metal-Detecting-medieval-saxon/183585451386 And what are the chances of him having two ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Sixpence-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Detecting-Find-/183585365405 Edited December 14, 2018 by Ukstu Quote
Rob Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Ukstu said: Fake siege piece. I've posted this guy up before. He makes his own stuff using precious metal clay then lists them as "Finds" https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarborough-Silver-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Metal-Detecting-medieval-saxon/183585451386 And what are the chances of him having two ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Sixpence-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Detecting-Find-/183585365405 If he can have a medieval Saxon Scarborough siege piece, I want his Tardis which would unquestionably be authentic Edited December 14, 2018 by Rob 2 Quote
hibernianscribe Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Ukstu said: Fake siege piece. I've posted this guy up before. He makes his own stuff using precious metal clay then lists them as "Finds" https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarborough-Silver-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Metal-Detecting-medieval-saxon/183585451386 And what are the chances of him having two ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Sixpence-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Detecting-Find-/183585365405 Quite amazing!! This guy's other non-numismatic MD finds are all strangely similar.... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Viking-Freya-Pendant-metal-Detecting-Saxon-Hammered/183585358778?hash=item2abe8a43ba:g:pHsAAOSwI9FcE5-~:rk:1:pf:0 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Rare-Early-Viking-Silver-Pendant-800ad-Metal-Detecting-Find/153299655991?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170920101022%26meid%3Df134fcaaa3704c43a0bb5a494b460175%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D3%26sd%3D183585358778%26itm%3D153299655991&_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Thors-Hammer-Pendant-Metal-Detecting-Find-Medieval-Saxon-Gold-Hammered/183581897832?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170221122447%26meid%3D8686fc1e236c4461a3eda337382a8a26%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D183585358778%26itm%3D183581897832&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hawking-Ring-Verval-Silver-Good-Condition-Detecting-Find-medieval-Hammered-Saxon/183576189927?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170221122447%26meid%3D8a54b32d8c68474598cb7cde1e5db6dc%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D183581897832%26itm%3D183576189927&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Hawking-Ring-Metal-Detecting-Verval-Medieval-Hammered/183585593199?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20170221122447%26meid%3Df14b7e9251264d19b40c416148f95146%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D183581897832%26itm%3D183585593199&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982 Not a very subtle forger! I've reported each individually and await with baited breath to see if Ebay have the gumption to pull them. Edited December 14, 2018 by hibernianscribe 1 Quote
Ukstu Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) They probably won't. I've been reporting all his stuff for about 12 months now. Terrible at his craft . He's no Billy & Charley that's for sure , least there stuff was passable lol. Edited December 14, 2018 by Ukstu Quote
Peter Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 Nice little cottage industry....don't these mug buyers check feedback? 1 Quote
Ukstu Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 31 minutes ago, Peter said: Nice little cottage industry....don't these mug buyers check feedback? Some shill buyers there by looks of it trying to falsely validate his stuff. Quote
hibernianscribe Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 1 minute ago, Ukstu said: Some shill buyers there by looks of it trying to falsely validate his stuff. Yes, I thought that - looks like they've been constructed to deceive. Quote
Ukstu Posted December 14, 2018 Posted December 14, 2018 (edited) 29 minutes ago, hibernianscribe said: Yes, I thought that - looks like they've been constructed to deceive. Definitely. Who in their right mind would come back for that crap 😂. I'll bet he's not actually sold much lol. Edited December 14, 2018 by Ukstu Quote
blakeyboy Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 On 12/12/2018 at 5:21 PM, blakeyboy said: I'm enjoying imagining what the accompanying cartoon in Private Eye would look like...... Probably by Osbert Lancaster, or, even better, by Ronald Searle..... Quote
blakeyboy Posted December 15, 2018 Posted December 15, 2018 22 hours ago, Ukstu said: Fake siege piece. I've posted this guy up before. He makes his own stuff using precious metal clay then lists them as "Finds" https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarborough-Silver-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Metal-Detecting-medieval-saxon/183585451386 And what are the chances of him having two ? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Silver-Sixpence-Siege-Piece-Coin-Hammered-Detecting-Find-/183585365405 Here's the conversation so far: Hi there. Is this a genuinely found piece? It looks cast. It's definitely not cast,it has been stamped or hammered. Oh right- but is it a genuinely found piece? Hi yes it was originally found years ago 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted December 16, 2018 Posted December 16, 2018 Weird experience on e bay just now. Did a late snipe bid with just 5 seconds (apparently) left on the clock in the "confirm bid" box. Time ran out on there, but found time was still running when the page switched to the display only, saying I was the high bidder. Several seconds after that before the time there ran out and confirmed me as the winner. Looking at the bid history, there was one bid after mine, but too low. The auction end time was 23:09:59 - I bid when 5 seconds were left - and found on the bid history that I actually bid at 23:09:34. Should have been 23:09:54. Also noticed that the countdown clock was going slightly awry by jumping forward by a second every now and then, rather than back. Must have lost 2 seconds every time it did so. Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 I find the phone app is a nightmare for this, and often reports to me that I didn't win, when in fact I did, before it sends me notifications to pay. Most confusing, but fortunately I haven't missed much. Actually forgetting to keep an eye on things I really want is more of a problem Quote
azda Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 On 12/1/2018 at 10:53 PM, Peter said: Why the heck slab this? Dodgy bids? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1963-GREAT-BRITAIN-1-2-P-HALF-PENNY-NGC-MS63-RD-GOLDEN-HIND-DESIGN-HALFPENNY/372509356467?epid=102133939&hash=item56bb49b1b3:g:OnoAAOSwDJZb9ZB9 Geezus the slabbing alone costs more, €24 for modern €35 for vintage Quote
RLC35 Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 14 hours ago, 1949threepence said: Weird experience on e bay just now. Did a late snipe bid with just 5 seconds (apparently) left on the clock in the "confirm bid" box. Time ran out on there, but found time was still running when the page switched to the display only, saying I was the high bidder. Several seconds after that before the time there ran out and confirmed me as the winner. Looking at the bid history, there was one bid after mine, but too low. The auction end time was 23:09:59 - I bid when 5 seconds were left - and found on the bid history that I actually bid at 23:09:34. Should have been 23:09:54. Also noticed that the countdown clock was going slightly awry by jumping forward by a second every now and then, rather than back. Must have lost 2 seconds every time it did so. Mike, a lot of bidders see that type of thing while watching, and making last second bids on ebay. Research has shown it is caused by too much wine! LOL... 1 2 Quote
1949threepence Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 (edited) 38 minutes ago, RLC35 said: Mike, a lot of bidders see that type of thing while watching, and making last second bids on ebay. Research has shown it is caused by too much wine! LOL... Ha, Ha - but actually not so on this occasion, Bob. No, something was definitely wrong with the clock. Bid history is below. Why would the other late bidder make a lower bid than mine with one second to go, when the confirm box shows the latest bids coming in? My bid was supposedly 25 seconds before the close, easily enough time for the other bidder to adjust their amount bid, or decide not to bid. Bid history on the item Edited December 17, 2018 by 1949threepence 1 Quote
mrbadexample Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 31 minutes ago, 1949threepence said: Why would the other late bidder make a lower bid than mine with one second to go, when the confirm box shows the latest bids coming in? Because he didn't know your bid. Your bid would have beaten the previous £12, and show £13 as the current bid. So they sniped at £18.50, but this wasn't enough to beat your earlier bid, so you win at £18.50 + 1. 1 Quote
1949threepence Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 6 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: Because he didn't know your bid. Your bid would have beaten the previous £12, and show £13 as the current bid. So they sniped at £18.50, but this wasn't enough to beat your earlier bid, so you win at £18.50 + 1. The only way that could have happened is if the bidder didn't notice what the latest high bid was. True, he may not have refreshed the main page, but the confirm bid box always shows the latest high bid, as well as new bids coming in, in real time, as they arise. Quote
Nick Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 43 minutes ago, mrbadexample said: Because he didn't know your bid. Your bid would have beaten the previous £12, and show £13 as the current bid. So they sniped at £18.50, but this wasn't enough to beat your earlier bid, so you win at £18.50 + 1. Exactly right. Quote
Paddy Posted December 17, 2018 Posted December 17, 2018 14 minutes ago, rpeddie said: interesting maundy set Your link is back into the forum - not to any "interesting Maundy Set" ... 🙂 Quote
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