Penny Acquisition of the week

[Rob]

19 minutes ago, alfnail said:

Here is the aforementioned trident flaw, also a close up of the numeral 8.

If my coin has a trident flaw which Rob’s doesn’t, but Rob’s has an 8 flaw which mine doesn’t, then by my reckoning that must mean the two coins have been struck from different reverse dies.   

Definitely two different dies because even if the fields were polished to remove the flaws and underlying E on the highest points on the die, it would still be present where it crosses the right prong of the trident.

[secret santa]

I, too, have an F13 with these repairs,

[jacinbox]

It's like an F over E

[Rob]

43 minutes ago, jacinbox said:

It's like an F over E

Or an E over F, but not punched deeply enough into an already hardened die

[azda]

Not a penny, but a halfpenny, not the prettiest either, cleaned, but i have to satisfy my curiosity of what is under the R in BRITT, any takers?

[Rob]

Carbon spot?

[azda]

No, by the loop of the R something is protruding above and also by the leg of R there is something underneath there, also seems to be a repair on it, not the best of pictures after cropping it further unfortunately

Edited July 19, 2016 by azda

[Rob]

too small

 

[azda]

4 minutes ago, Rob said:

too small

 

Thought so......

[scott]

looks like a recut R. on a die crack?

you do see a bump sometimes on the R in 1862 obverse halfpenny, but this is an earlier date, and not the same bump.

 

[azda]

9 hours ago, scott said:

looks like a recut R. on a die crack?

you do see a bump sometimes on the R in 1862 obverse halfpenny, but this is an earlier date, and not the same bump.

 

1861 Scott

[PWA 1967]

One from a forum member i have been after and not easy to find.

1841 with COLON a lot harder than the common one.

[Bronze & Copper Collector]

On 07/17/2016 at 10:35 PM, scott said:

1909 1 to tooth I have found is rarer then the open 3 1903

Definitely

[jacinbox]

With the 1909 1 to tooth there are under 20 coins in existence.

 

[Rob]

The ease with which the rim and teeth are obliterated on the 1909 is a significant reason for the low population because it isn't a particularly rare date within the mountains of crap I see on a regular basis. You don't lose the date very often.

[scott]

from the pictures of the 1909 1 to tooth, the rim/teeth seem to be longer anyway, and there are 2 other methods of finding it, (hand holding trident, and trident pointing)

 

Edited July 21, 2016 by scott

[Nordle11]

also both upwards serifs of N in ONE point between teeth

[PWA 1967]

Have you got one Scott ?.

[secret santa]

I've now added 1909 F169 to my rarest penny website and would be pleased if collectors could let me know of further examples.

[terrysoldpennies]

On ‎17‎/‎07‎/‎2016 at 7:57 AM, jelida said:

Possibly, but there are many varieties that can only be identified in reasonable condition, and Freeman's rarity estimates take that into account as they were based on study of worn, ex circulation coins, ie they reflect what was identifiable at the time of his study, rather than the absolute numbers struck. I think the new F10 should be identifiable in grades above VG, as there are several letter/tooth relationships that could be used. As well as the A of Victoria, the colon between F:D to a gap, rather than tooth for example.

Either way, it would be nice to have some accurate ratios based on the current population of F10's.

Jerry

Richard  the new 1909 rare list has example 3  and  7  duplicated

[secret santa]

Thanks Terry - your surname should be Eagle-eye rather than Eagleton 

[scott]

I wish I had one.

[jelida]

Got a nice F72, Gouby ja Freeman H* reverse today at the Midland coin fair, as a normal F72 for £220. Doubt I can better this.

Jerry

[secret santa]

Now that IS a nice coin Jerry - best by far that I've seen on an F72. Could you mail me pics please.

Richard

[PWA 1967]

Well spotted Jerry