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https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1935-GREAT-BRITAIN-CROWN-AU-UNC-GEM-RARE-TYPE-Silver-Coin-Lot-M23-/152956603973 Why? £87 2 days to go . I am not seeing it what's the draw?

So could it be an L as that is a foot at the top and at a seperate angle to the rest of the coin?

Another little gem didn't see anything originally as the pic was so poor but a scarcer date 1849 so as it was for pennies I bought it and it turned out to be a very interesting little Farthing indeed. Stop before C of VICTORIA 4 over lower 4 not sure what went on with the 1?

why would they be on the right? its not inverted only upside down same as if you flip and e it still an E

Took a Punt on this seemingly ambiguous 1861 Penny. I noticed when looking at the stock pic glancing at the E in ONE and the E in PENNY backwards and forwards that the bottom serif on the E in ONE was much more Angular like @ 90 degrees where the bottom makes that L shape at the far right tip. If you follow The E in PeNNY has a shallow angle. Anyway I thought well in for a penny and I think I did quite well on calling the difference. It is a repair but they used an upside down F to repair the broken E which is broken from midway between the 2nd and 3rd serifs. It's very clear as you can see from the pics. To clarify seeing as I ballsed up what I was trying to say. The E in PENNY has the Repair

is that not a dropped 2 under the 5 or a pic illusion?

So really there are no real V.I.P coins in 1953 ? Only 1951 and the specimen proof-like 1935 crown. It is a terminology designated by dealers and probably as a direct result of the 1951 V.I.P crown as it is the only one listed in literature . Although this gives food for thought There is a V.I.P 1953 penny I don't have the 1953 proof set but on the description it Quotes "reverse has toothed border" I thought they were all beaded and what would a V.I.P proof be doing in a normal Proof set? take a look at this although the RM told you that they are unable to comment I smell a rat somewhere. Firstly they deflect V.I.P as a dealers invention to describe a finish on the coins yet their own website shows with the heading V.I.P 1953 Penny. Seems a little contradicting to me don't you think? https://www.royalcollection.org.uk/collection/443808/elizabeth-ii-v-i-p-proof-penny

I think the V.I.P frosted proofs you will never see unless they were relinquished by the MP's that they were given too. I could hardly see them receiving them in a plastic case though?. I would of thought it would have been in a plush veneer casing with something inscribed to honour the occasion . Perhaps we should of asked the RM what were the special V.I.P sets or coins that were given to heads of states and such like surely they must have pictures somewhere of them.? Also was there a possibility that after they finished the V.I.P quota could those dies of then been used for the normal proof sets? I was under the impression that the frosted proofs look like our modern proofs with that very noticeable snow white subjects and lettering and almost infinite like dark mirrored finish?

No worries any questions or concerns this site has some very knowledgeable folk far mor than I am able to give so there will always be help somewhere and the right help

1970 is only issued as a proof set . BU sets coins show cartwheel luster when spun in the light . Proof coins do not they are almost the same as looking in the mirror and are far superior in quality Very informative should answer your questions:) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3GiMY-1LHR4

Inclusion for collectors only to carry on the date cycle or everyone who collects by date would be without a 1971 50 pence

Circulation coins are struck once Proof coins are struck a twice minimum. Generally much sharper detail. If you put your finger near the coin surface but not touching it on proof coins you will see a reflection of your finger comes the term mirrored finish which most proof coins exhibit. I say most because there are different types of proofs. Matt proofs do not exhibit a mirrored finish and are flat to look at but are of such high quality much higher than a standard strike also standard strikes exhibit luster and you cannot get the reflective quality of a genuine proof strike from standard circulation strikes. BU struck coins specifically for sets may exhibit Proof-like qualities and this is where I think the term comes from. People sending in coins from BU sets and getting the PL designation. But as a rule coins struck for circulation are seldom of proof quality Although if you were lucky enough to get the first few coins struck on a new die I dare say they would look far superior to early middle or late stage die strikes. But almost as likely as winning the lottery As a footnote there are some scarcer types in the 1970 set. the Sixpence has 2 obverse types. the scarcer of the 2 concerns the pointing of I in GRATIA. I>Gap between teeth on border is the scarcer type. The florin (Two Shillings) also has 2 obverse types the scarcer type has the E of DEI pointing directly to a border tooth Half Crown has 2 obverse types the slightly scarcer type has the I of GRATIA slightly right of a border tooth. Half Penny has a rare obverse type D of DEI to GAP and has a thin rim currently Unlisted.

I sold a nice one on there about 6 months or more ago was absolutely flawless beautiful coin was sorry to see it go tbh

couple of bits that needed to be rescued a scarce-ish not darkened 1902 Farthing. Rather nice 1 lovely light patina and a 1933 Half Crown again really nice tone to it

Again some valid arguments but I think at the end of the day ebay is a virtual auction house where we rely for the most part on sellers description and photographs and as we all know as my last purchase proved doctored pictures and benign descriptions are beyond our control. Being at the auction itself and viewing the coins takes away the % of doubt and bidding will reflect the coins true value whereas I believe the reason for lower top bids on ebay is that (just in case ) factor.

On the George V is that the angle of the coin or are some letters bigger BRITT looks bigger and MN of OMN tall D and squashed D opposite I of Britt looks taller than I of IND ?

yes I noticed the differences but to a novice they wouldn't have a clue. It just scares me how good these repro's are getting. I can almost see it now of the 6 that sold who wants a wager that 1 finds itself listed on the bay as an original 1850 shilling?

I am gobsmacked these look too good to be fakes. but 8.47 each jesus too scarey https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VICTORIA-DEI-GRATIA-BRITANNIAR-1-Shilling-Within-Wreath-1850-Crown-Above/162934723459

you wouldn't believe the amount of unlisted coins that are still to be scooped up. A lot of them are slabbed along with lots of misattributed varieties which is understandable to a point as I guess the US TPG's go by Spink and krause for the most part unless someone has explicitly sent a coin in with provenance and the right variety is designated. I think it is always well worth looking at every coin even though tedious at times it will eventually reward you just when you least expect it to. Even nicer when it is hidden in a sellers shop with a BIN next to it

Interesting points that jump out. there seems to be a die flaw above the sea on the left and check the D on DEF could that be an underlying R. I expect its a pinch or a start of a die crack but who knows

because most of them are not exactly honest to the description. LCA and other coin auctions will tell you if the coin has faults. Ebay they either omit the flaws or doctor the pictures to make the coins more appealing. I don't think I have had more than 5 exactly what was described. Plus LCA is third party whereas ebay the sellers actually own the stuff they sell. I know LCA do sell their coins but other auction houses are merely middlemen.

Totally agree. Just because the coin is in a slab it doesn't mean you can attach ridiculous prices to them. Cleaned coins lose up to 40% of value depending on harshness and rarity of coin. In UNC condition cleaned it would prob find a home at a vastly reduced price but in VF its a £80 coin @40% so £40 for arguments sake tops any other idea of it being worth £250 is delusional

Why did this suddenly ring my internal scammer alarm. Typical low sales account with typical blurred picture of what looks a very nice Cartwheel Penny. "LOOKS". I'd bet my goldfish's life that if you saw it close up it would be a fake. It looks suss to me anyway. what you think guys? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1797-George-cartwheel-penny-rare-collectable-coin/142721743687