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Not my area at all, but an interesting first post. Perhaps Clive can help? Anyway, welcome to the forum!

That's a great background story, Matt. I'm really pleased you found us as a result of our exchange. It's always good to have new enthusiasts join our hobby, especially those with a few less years on the clock. It sounds like you're already building quite a collection!

It was once believed to be unique, but certainly isn't. DNW sold a different one in a VIP set last year.

Thank you for the heads-up and the better photo! Are you selling pennies generally, or just your duplicates?

My exposure to 'proper' currys in the late 70's involved visiting a girlfriend at Bradford uni. A bowl of soup-like curry and a pile of chapatis. No cutlery, just a sink in the corner for washing hands when you'd finished!

Yep, I have one somewhere too. Almost certainly a bath in acid.

Some nice sites being put together here! One or two of the traditional sellers could be falling behind if they're not careful (though not in terms of stock).

I must be almost the same vintage. These fivers were around, but no reason why a 5 year old would notice them. I recall that the toy of my dreams was the famous Johnny Seven gun. Of course I never had one, but these monster contraptions were still under a pound, which was a huge amount then! Back to fivers, I certainly remember the later blue version.

Hello Mark, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's an obverse 2, reverse D, Freeman 10. (Obverse 2, based on the distance between the top of the bust and the linear circle, the colon between D & G points to a tooth, the position of LC Wyon on the truncation, the position of the ribbon ends etc.) Thanks for the corroboration..... I know what my gut told me, but couldn't be sure on a small screen.. Sorry, I should have pointed out that we were in agreement! I usually struggle on the iPhone, but sitting in front of a 27" iMac now!

Hello Mark, Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it's an obverse 2, reverse D, Freeman 10. (Obverse 2, based on the distance between the top of the bust and the linear circle, the colon between D & G points to a tooth, the position of LC Wyon on the truncation, the position of the ribbon ends etc.)

Then an Peck 1502 copper proof, ornate trident, far colon, reverse upright. Bt. London Coins 02/06/13:

Glad you separated this out, John. A very interesting thread! I have two contributions: Starting with an 1839 bronzed proof, bt. DNW 111 12-13/06/13, ex. Andrew Scothern Collection.

It just goes to show the power of the press over the people. Imagine what could happen if they ever wanted to convince vast swathes of the public of something, whether it was true or not? [...sits back and waits for a certain someone to, probably correctly, mention the Daily Mail]

It was a 1905 half crown sold by Martin Platt on eBay a few months back, so it's no longer listed now and no photo is available (unless anyone made a copy).

Mark's a very well known, high end dealer who certainly know's his coins. I imagine it will either appear in his next published 'list' or he already has a buyer for the coin, possibly in the US. Whatever one may feel about MP, it was a stunning example.

It's strange, but for some reason coin and banknote collectors seem to be entirely different species. Not sure why, but I've never considered collecting notes. Yet Coin News features them. I don't think it's right to say none of us is ever tempted to have a few notes? I've got the 'lion and key / Britannia' fiver (very handsome), plus a ten bob, a few one pounds, and a few blue fivers including a replacement note - and I'd sooner have those than medieval hammered!! I actually do have a couple of old ten bob and pound notes too, though I've never really considered them part of any collection. They certainly bring back memories of the 'good old days'!

They sold an item I bought by mistake, commission free. What other circumstances do you know of? Not that I have much to sell.

It's strange, but for some reason coin and banknote collectors seem to be entirely different species. Not sure why, but I've never considered collecting notes.

This story in the Mail might interest you. If you really want coverage drop them a line. The last coin they featured (1919kn penny off-metal strike) went for £7k, as I recall!

Clive, Dave.... In true eBay fashion, I'm happy to send the note. Postage will be a nominal £100. Thanks Paulus! Considering Matthew Boulton is virtually unknown to the public, and there's been a big push to get females represented on our notes, he's done well! Personally I like the design.

Richard, you've been hacked…. someone's using your account to show copper coins!

Reverse A (on the left) & B (on the right). As Peck says, very different rims/teeth and, as Gary points out, the '1' of 1913 is differently aligned:

Obverse 1 (on the left) & 2 (on the right). 'I' of IND to a tooth or gap.

This must have been discussed before, but I've only just noticed that Matthew Boulton appears alongside James Watt on the rear of the (newer) £50 note! A picture is worth a thousand words, so I thought I'd scan the back of a note and crop the image to post in this thread. Not so easy! The scan worked fine, but when I tried to open it in photoshop I got a message, "This application does not support the editing of banknote images". Clearly there's some clever image recognition going on in the software, so you'll have to look for yourselves!

Hi, and welcome. I prefer to think of myself as a fairly well informed enthusiast, rather than an expert! Nevertheless, I'm sorry to advise that your coin is die combination 6 + G (i.e. a Freeman 33). As I'm sure you're aware, the 5 + G combination is very rare. The easiest way to determine that your coin is obverse 6 is by the gap between the top of the head and the rim. For obverse 6 this is noticeably smaller. Here's obverse 5 (on the left) and obverse 6 (on the right), for comparison: