Accumulator

No, the 1919KN's are rarer and more valuable than the H's, which in turn are rarer and more valuable than the plain versions. All are available in Fine condition at minimal cost but the 1919KN in true UNC, for example, might be $ 5,000! Values range over a broad spectrum, primarily based on condition.

1. The 1918 and 1919 pennies minted at Heaton (H) and Kings Norton (KN) have small letters alongside the date to denote this. As an example, here is a 1919KN 2. There is only one version of the 1901 penny. 3. 1950 & 51 pennies are regularly listed on eBay. That should give you an idea on price. Be aware that they are both available as circulation coins and proofs.

I think Rob has covered most points, so I won't repeat anything. Instead I would highlight the tremendous additional pleasure that can be gained from tracking, and in particular discovering, provenance. For me it adds that special ingredient to collecting a coin and in a strange way leads to enjoying it just that little bit more. It also means that once you've made a purchase and added it to the collection, your work may not be done. Looking through old sale catalogues, books, on-line resources etc. may yet lead you to new discoveries. As an example, I have VIP proof pennies for 1934, 1935 & 1936. The 1935 turned out to be ex. Norweb (thank you Rob!) and, as such, is my favourite though I admit it's not actually the best of the three coins. Since that discovery I've been able to add provenance to many of my coins and enjoy them all the more.

While we generally do not pay notice to nor comment upon the expense involved in building a collection... with the exception of possibly commenting upon the stratospheric levels acheived by certain rarities... we do however acknowledge the painstaking research and effort involved in acquiring specimens that are amongst the finest available....QUALITY FIRST... It's more than be said about my collection... You are way too modest... You have some very fine examples indeed! Thank you for the kind words....I do have many of the rare varieties, albeit not always in the choicest condition.... I'll grant that some may not be available in the so called "collectable grades"..... My belief, however, is that if someone (me for example) wants it for and places it in their collection, then it is indeed collectable.... As I made note in another post, I generally do not collect proofs nor patterms, (with some exceptions), so the collection is not as complete as others.... But I am content with what I have accomplished, working with what I had available to me.... Just to mention one coin Gary, your 1908 1*+ C, F164A, is possibly the best known.

Hammered is not my area, but you are in good hands here. Welcome to the site. If you have any questions on pennies then I can probably help

As I already have examples of the main rarities, I did a deal for his remaining model pennies (20 odd of the non-rare ones). There may not be anything of particular interest, but sorting out the micro-varieties will keep me busy for a few long winter evenings!

Congratulations on securing those two rarities! Very nice indeed.

Extremely Fine?

AU75 seems fair. Which route are you taking to sell it, Gary?

While we generally do not pay notice to nor comment upon the expense involved in building a collection... with the exception of possibly commenting upon the stratospheric levels acheived by certain rarities... we do however acknowledge the painstaking research and effort involved in acquiring specimens that are amongst the finest available.... QUALITY FIRST... It's more than be said about my collection... You are way too modest... You have some very fine examples indeed!

I'm rather late to the party… welcome to the forum, Sweep! As Peckris says, your 1862 is the more common (by several orders of magnitude) 6 + G die combination. A lovely example for £15, that's for sure. Well done with the purchase! Thank you for the kind comments on my collection website. I have so much more to do, which is just fine. Building a collection takes a long, long time but provides endless hours of pleasure.

Lovely coin Bob! I have the Plain Trident, but no example of this.

Two books. One for each denomination, by Michael A Marsh.

Rolex? ROLEX?? What a name! There's a young man who will do.. Her Majesty's Pleasure. …TIMEX!

I have to admit to liking large coins. If I could afford it, I'd be collecting crowns more actively too.

Me too. This coin is still being listed as the 2+G, did either of you get a reply from the seller? He insisted it had 15 leaves in the wreath, so must be obverse 2! I pointed out that the photo wasn't of sufficient quality to examine the leaves but that the position of the bust was the clincher. He didn't reply further!

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly. Can I write your biography? Oh please, please, please! You'll have to get in quick. I'm already taking bids for the film rights!

Apart from these: 1904 '4 points to tooth' 1911 Gouby X 1915 'recessed ear' 1916 'recessed ear' 1944 'last 4 points to tooth' 1946 'ONE*' flaw Does anyone have anything not listed in Freeman? (actually Dave Groom lists a couple of other date position varieties, as I recall?)

Yes Nord, the second is a proof. I have both currency and proof of each, but these two photos show the sea more clearly.

We need a picture: From which you will observe the vast (and undeniably interesting) difference between the relative sea levels and the border teeth! And of course the position of 'P' in PENNY.

I have a few pennies too...

For what it's worth (extremely boring as both are very common ), you have an example of each of the two varieties of 1905 penny there. The first has the E of PENNY out of correct alignment - it's parallel to the N and angled away from the P - while the second has the three letters PEN in correct rotation to each other. As I say, it's the second most boring 20th Century variety, but I just thought I'd point it out... (Sorry, I just noticed Accumulator has already mentioned it ) To be fair, David mentioned it first Peck

1908 is up there. I've seen several incorrect attributions in auctions. The 1* obverse is the big rarity, though.

You've hit the nail on the head David, two different dies. Actually F-160 & F-161 though!

Well there's scope for getting it wrong but it's not that difficult nowadays to piece together a system of compatible components. One thing Windows did get right is support for the myriad hardware available - so long as you go with a known and trusted vendor I don't see too many problems. If you were looking at going down the Intel route you'd have probably only half a dozen motherboards to choose from for any given chipset. If you wanted a car, would you buy the engine, gearbox, chassis, body etc. from separate suppliers? Ok, some people would. You've probably seen their kit cars on trailers heading for the nearest garage. For most people a computer is a box they plug in, that just works. That's Apple's market.