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I saw it too and wrote to the seller when the auction ended early. Apparently the seller was only an agent for the owner and, once they realised what the coin was, have decided to de-list it and take 'expert' advice.

Interesting. Let us know if it is different type?

Yes, I watched all those drift by, David! I decided I couldn't live with the grade on any of them apart from the F17, which I got for £50 or so. Happy with that... Who is that mystery seller? Penny Dealer.co.uk doesn't work any more...I'll find out when it arrives I suppose... There was a fantastic 1863 Open 3 on eBay about 2 weeks ago, which went for £800+. I did leave a proxy bid but went out for the evening. When I looked later, I'd missed out by a fair margin! The seller of the 1863 and other coins you mention is a well-known collector. Well done on the F-17 Declan. I did buy the F-28 as a reasonably priced gap filler. London Coins have sold a couple in the past few years at £500+

And the coin I bought is in the gallery I think all his coins are

Interesting sideline David!

Almost the numismatic equivalent of a business card. Very nice!

Woolley & Wallis sold a 1919KN cupro-nickel penny at auction last year, together with full provenance. It went for something like £7K as I recall. There's a thread somewhere here with all the details.

That's probably it, Nick! I'm glad you found an article in the DT, not the DM…. Peckris would never forgive me!

Yes, but we know different now, than all the population that was fed blatant propaganda at the outset of the war. NOW we know that millions died in vain in a futile titanic struggle between Empires, and it honours absolutely no-one, not even Kitchener, that every death in WW1 is now "commemorated" by that now ridiculed and risible poster. As you say, 100 years have passed, and we should be taking a respectful stand as the Queen does every November 11th at the Cenotaph. Suppose instead of a red poppy she and all the people there, wore T Shirts carrying that poster? The nation would be in uproar and rightfully so. I agree with your sentiment Peckris though I've read recently that the famous Kitchener 'poster' was never actually a poster and wasn't used for recruiting before or during WW1. The RM seem to be have jumped aboard that popular myth rather than celebrate the real lives that were lost.

But do we know who it was who was fined $2.50 for trespassing on the King's private roads?? Boe, presumably. At least he got away with just a Fine for the misdemeanour, It could have been a far more costly Extremely Fine! Or no longer able to circulate Didn't he die in the end? Yes, legend has it (though I've seen no proof) that the tender karats in his field were hammered by the reign, his mule died and, despite some relief, he later suffered a business strike and his fortunes went into reverse. He's buried in a tomb somewhere, marked only by slab with a small inscription.

But do we know who it was who was fined $2.50 for trespassing on the King's private roads?? Boe, presumably. At least he got away with just a Fine for the misdemeanour, It could have been a far more costly Extremely Fine!

Interesting! A very similar index card to mine. I've written to Heritage, so let's see what they come up with.

As Jonathan Ross might say, it's "werry werry ware"!

I think you are right Rob...it probably is a cost code. The letter "x" in most codes means "0", the balance would depend on the code itself. If the first word of the code is "MUSIC", then the cost of the coin would be $1.20 (pounds). You've completely lost me there Bob, on several counts! Sounds extremely cryptic! I guess the seller doesn't want the buyer to be able to work out what he paid for it? Sorry Paulus, Ha,Ha! Generally the seller does code the buying price of a coin, and note it somewhere on the coin holder. In this way he can know what he has in a coin when he prepares it for sale (or has an opportunity to sell it). The codIng might go something like this in a typical code....The code might be..."Music Taker", with each letter becoming a code for specific number. Thus M would be 1...U would be 2...S would be 3, right up to R which would be 0. (1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-0 = M-U-S-I-C-T-A-K-E-R). You are correct in that most people will not advise the client what they have invested in a coin. Is it any clearer? In this example "MUX" would be $1.20 (pounds)...M=1...U=2...X=0 (X can be a zero, the same as the R in the above code). Interesting thought Bob, I've wondered about dealers using such a system when I see apparently meaningless letters or numbers on a coin ticket at a fair. They can't expect to recall what they paid on every coin, so I suppose this provides an ease of reference. Very Bletchley Park! No doubt the dealers here could comment? That said, I'm not convinced in this case. I feel sure its's an index card for a collection, long before the age of spreadsheets and databases. I've spent many hours in family history libraries searching through thousands of almost identical cards in wooden cabinets. If it's a private index card then there would be no sale price (the coin isn't for sale), only the buy price ($4.00). I'll drop Heritage an email and see what they have to say!

Hard to tell much from the photos. If it was an off-metal strike then I'd expect it to be noticed and removed from circulation as a curiosity early in its life. It would therefore be in EF+ condition. The pictured coin is in circulated condition and therefore most likely plated for fun.

Given that mux seems to be related to the cost, it might mean multiplexed ie that it was originally bought as part of a multiple lot and the costs of the individual items were estimated from the total. That's certainly a possibility Nick, though 'multiplex' sounds a like a modern word to me. I can't recall hearing it until uni in the late 70s (in respect of multiple-channel telecoms).

My 1797 pattern penny has an accompanying ticket, shown below. The size and typeface suggests it's from a card index of the collection. Have other coins been supplied with similar cards and does anyone have an idea what "mux" might mean? I could ask Heritage I suppose,

A penny cabinet without a thermostat? No way. I'm not scraping ice off my 1933 on a winter morning... Sadly, having often search on the keyword "penny" and seen these and similar kitchen appliances appear, I know the seller can't spell! The brand is actually "Henny Penny". Anyone remember "Chicken Licken" and the sky falling in?

Happy birthday to you both!

According to the catalogue it says that you can bid on Goldberg Live, but that just gives page not found. Anyway, I was only interested in one lot, so it's not the end of the world. I'm sure I can find somewhere else to spend my money. Someone at Goldberg told me that bidding was possible through the-saleroom.com when I spoke with them last week, but this turns out not to be true. I phoned them earlier today and am logged in now though, as you say, the site was actually down for around an hour at lunchtime (their time). Edit: I agree about the KN's… terrible. In fact most of their pennies are. I'm not at all convinced by the 1877 proof (especially given the bad die clash, which is completely missing from other proof examples)

Hi Rich, I wouldn't disagree with Paulus. I would say, though, that proper evaluation of the half crown would require a higher resolution photo. When grading above GVF, detail is everything (lion's faces etc.) and that just isn't discernible from the picture. Regarding the cartwheels, Spink is a little optimistic on pricing. At any given time there are a large number on the market and just about every dealer has at least a couple, with eBay regularly listing dozens (in varying grade, of course). £200 is probably top whack for anything less than EF. Coins that are genuine EF to GEF will be around the Spink price you quote, with A/UNC examples £600+, and true UNC around £1,000. The discrepancy you mention is probably entirely down to grading stretch. As Paulus says, we really need a photo.

Or there's Britannia on the 'throne':

Another example of the wardrobe malfunction posted by Peck. A bit less flat-chested than Rob's!

Excellent, Rob. That'll take some beating!

I think that's a really good summary of their relative scarcity. Here's my take, which is similar: 1912H - Really quite common, even in GEF+, and generally well struck up. I see plenty for sale, even on eBay 1918H - Just about all the examples I've seen have the 'mushy' reverse. I've also been told of the hoard that was found in the 80's and gradually dripped into the market. I bought the recent Spink New York example (it wasn't expensive) and am hoping it's slightly better than the norm. At the moment I only have fairly poor photos so will have to wait and see! 1919H - As you say, much less common in good grade than the 1918H's. Much better struck up too. I hadn't noticed the allow problem that plagues the KN's on this coin, but I haven't looked at too many. 1918KN - Well struck and some nice coins around, but never cheap in top grade 1919KN - With these I've frequently noticed the reddish alloy (at least I presume it's the alloy). Again generally well struck nd always commanding the highest prices. £2,500+ for a true BU example, close to prices for the 1926ME. Here's an example of the reddish alloy: