Peckris

Well, that's a crumb of comfort I suppose

The worst thing about a Yes vote is that it would leave England at the mercy of the fecking Tories, or even worse UKIP.

Between VF and EF is the right grade, I'd say. There's just a little bit too much wear for EF. The prices in CCGB (probably a little more realistic) are £30 £75 £250.

It's certainly not a repair to a worn die - my guess is that the R was badly mispunched and they tried a repunch of the character. In which case there ought to be others from the same die?

I would agree. Definitely 6+G IMO.

Obverse GF Reverse NVF in my opinion. The edge knocks don't affect the grade per se, but it is part of the condition, and would affect the value noticeably; in the case of your coin it wouldn't command more than Fine prices probably.

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At least you have some means of operation with a choice of 4 gadgets whereas you're b*******d if the iPhone attacks the person on the other end and gets put in the naughty bin. Cunning things these iPhones, after all, you only have to look at the subliminal messages Dave's phone sends out. Wouldn't trust 'em an inch. Unfortunately, the AyePhone got us 31 goals last season.

My thoughts exactly. I've used microfibre cloths for years and haven't seen hairline scratches. Mind you, I only use them sparingly anyway, not as a matter of course.

"Cost: £265 per boat inclusive of free, introductory membership of The Coracle Society" Only the Scots could make "free" and "£265" work in the same sentence

I'd LOVE to gloat, but after we were trashed 3-1 by City (yes yes, I know, different ball game!) I'm not feeling quite so chirpy. Someone compared our transfer dealings to selling an iPhone, and buying a pager, fax, camera and printer in its place.

Apparrently the new Scottish navy will move in and more than compensate for the lost jobs. Also all the new navy ships will be built on the Clide so there will be more jobs not less. Aye, that'll come in handy to repulse the imminent invasion from the massed fleets of the Orkneys, Shetlands, Faeroes and Iceland

It was more to check that I am grading properly. I'm trying to find pennies in EF condition at a decent price. But thanks for the warning about the colour; I can't tell yet whether an odd shade is from the metal composition or having been cleaned. You're not alone there. Many of us would be hard pushed to tell with that particular coin or one like it. Copper and bronze is an absolute b****** for differing colourations. Often you'd need to see it in hand. Check the seller has a 'Returns' policy before jumping in.

The young lady in that picture is safe enough, with Cliff Richard 'perched' right above her.

If rubbing/dusting with a cloth leaves hairlines, then it's cleaning by my definition. Where does one draw the line on your side of the pond? I'm asking this because I really want to know. I would never rub a coin with any type of cloth as it will always impart hairlines. Peck said "rubbing with the wrong kind of cloth"...I don't know of any "right" kind of cloth. Two things here : 1. Rubbing with a cloth can leave faint lines that are only on the 'film' around the coin, i.e. they're not permanent, and could be washed off. That's what I was referring to - if they are permanent striations then I agree with you - CLEANED! 2. The "right" kind of cloth is a microfibre cloth - if it won't scratch the lenses in my spectacles, it won't scratch a metal coin!! Your local optician will have them, or maybe you can Google them?

Yes, I'd say your grading is pretty good. The reverse is not far off EF, and your valuation takes into account that it's quite a common penny. It's POSSIBLY been cleaned at some point, but it may just be the photo.

Welcome Clueless - love your movie!

Just FYI: There are Talers with this same design feature from ca. 1650 that pre-date G2 silver coinage. It wouldn't surprise me if ancients existed with a similar design also (that's outside of my experience/knowledge). I presume the symbolism is one of royalty and strength? That sounds a likely enough reason (as long as they're not basing it on Richard Coeur de Lyon, one of the biggest twats in history )

Yeah, but Dave - the Scottish pound (as it exists currently) is actually just the £ Sterling rebadged, as it is - and always has been - tied to the value of the BoE pound. If the BoE refused to make any such correlation between the Scottish and UK £, the Scottish £ would 'float free'. That could result in it going either up or down relatively, either scenario bringing potential problems. As for Trident, *I* don't want it either; I see it as a colossal waste of money compared to the much smaller amount of money that would be needed to counter terrorism, which is the modern menace, not Soviet SAM missiles. But it does exist and the British Government isn't going to remove it. Meanwhile it's providing a lot of jobs for Scots as do Naval contracts on Clydeside. I agree with you 100% about foodbanks BTW.

Is the face on the shoulder of the Middlesex one intentional? It's a lion.

I keep hearing Salmon say that "Scotland will keep the pound £". Erm, how will that happen if the remaining UK decides they can't? What will they tie the Scottish Pound to, when all's said and done - the Euro? And when Westminster decides that Faslane will close and Trident moved to Teesside instead, how will that improve the Scottish economy? Not to mention all the RN warships that get built on Clydeside? Oh, that's right, I forgot - the infinite supply of North Sea Oil...

I think probably the first - there's more contrast and therefore relief, and there isn't the flash reflection.

I haven't changed my opinion.There's no evident wear, so I'm sticking with AUNC

Florin? I thought he only did shillings?