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Very nice coins Hus.

You should have phoned MP David, I'm sure he would have stuck needles in you for free!

I think it's Geordie too? Hinnie is the North East version (or "bitch" if it's the woman talking to the man) It was always "pet" we used though.

No Stuart, both just folk art love tokens, the worked "Scottish" one rather dubious in my opinion/experience! Wish I could make one! A clamp, drill and a fret saw are all that is required, plus a wee bit of time/patience.

No Stuart, both just folk art love tokens, the worked "Scottish" one rather dubious in my opinion/experience!

Nice Penny, it looks similar to some tickets I have that I think are Ex Dr E.A.Johnstone, but I am sure Rob will be able to shed some light on it The G looks right for Johnstone as do the 2 and 8. It's a shame there is no lower case m as this is quite distinctive, but on balance I'd say it is a Johnstone ticket. If ex-Peck, then Johnstone must have bought it from Spink in the 1960s when Peck's collection was dispersed, but the presence of a provenance in Johnstone's hand dating to 1940 suggests that Peck doesn't come into it. There are two possible names for the 1940 sale; J McPherson or George Wight. Both had collections of English in the sale, but M & R doesn't say whose lots were which. I'm sure L282 will be the lot number which was on the second day, so that would suggest Wight as the provenance. Unfortunately I don't have the catalogue. The purple number may well be a Baldwin reference. Johnstone was a Baldwin customer and they acquired his collection post-mortem. It is possible the VICTORIA 1868 1d Bronzed writing is that of the 1940 vendor. If so, I'd like to know who it is for future reference. It looks like both sides are in the same hand Rob. The e and g are both quite distinctive as is the the loop coming through the base on the 6's. The word Copper looks to be the odd one out and by a different hand to the rest of the writing, which would suggest that somebody post the 1940 sale thought this?

A lot. I spent some time working for the Financial Ombudsman Service and essentially we started with the assumption that the claimant was in the right. Certain occupations - teachers, policemen (sorry John) were prevalent in making claims and a fair few won despite the fact that you knew in your heart of hearts that they were being somewhat economical with the truth, you just couldn't put your finger on it. In my time there, the assumption was made that professionals such as solicitors or accountants should really have known what they were doing and would have had the nous to read the small print and ask questions. However, I understand that has now changed and solicitors are now claiming like there is no tomorrow. So either we've got the worst legal profession in the world, or someone is pulling a fast one. Bizarre. I do have a degree of sympathy with anyone (apart from the above) who was mis-sold Payment Protection Insurance however as it was normally an add-on to something else, such as a pension. The cost was usually a fraction of the overall total and as such people tended to disregard it. When you add up many years worth of payments however, it does come to a tidy sum. No offence taken Derek I have only made 2 claims in my life, both for car wrecks that should have ended my claiming days, but, I was fortunate enough to be wheeled away from them. I could have submitted lots and lots of claims but chose not to. One of the easiest cons claims I could have had was for vibtration whitefinger. I spent 4 1/2 years as a coal miner and the payouts have been immense for that. They were virtually paying out just because you could be bothered to apply. Strangely enough I worked in the police at the time and one of my colleagues claimed (and was paid) for his time at the shipyard in Barrow, errrrrr "how can you be a serving police officer if you can't use your hands some days?????"

Stuart, the only thing I use on slabs is a hammer

The second group are better than the first on condition. I deal in tokens and cannot see anything there that screams rare. There are multiple varieties on most though due to pointing of features to letters, edge lettering etc. I would pay around £80 for a group like that in auction. Hope that helps. John.

They are really only worth the bullion value, maybe the 1935 Crown will do a little more (£15-20) The sovereign you should get around £220 for the half sovereign about £115 and the 2 1889 Crowns about £15 each.

Ye gods. Almost £25 for a VF 1887 shilling that can be got for around a fiver! If they can sell 5 in week you will have to sell 25. It is a bit like another BNTA member asking £90 for a F 1946 3d. My purchase list is now limited although I can be tempted on other denominations...Farthings varieties 1st but I like a few hammered and selected top quality other coins. You're kidding me! Oh, you were just giving an "it's as if...", right? The coin Peter mentioned: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GEORGE-VI-MILLED-NICKLE-BRASS-THREEPENCE-COIN-014809-/350439842334?pt=UK_Coins_BritishMilled_RL&hash=item5197d7a21e FFS I thought Peter was taking the water....... :blink: :blink: :blink:

It's still cheap compared with the commission rates of auction houses. I think auction houses are even worse than bankers bonuses Peck. Whatever the sellers rate is there are always nice little stealth taxes, insurance/storage, lotting fees, pictures fees etc etc.

It's a flat 10% + 25p transaction charge + paypal at 2.9% (additional charges for foreign transcations to be paid by the seller) + listing fee, so I work on an average of 14%. I am a business seller and have been on these terms for a long time now. Your fees are therefore much higher on the endless list of things worth £10 that come off at £0.99 (closer to 40%). As a top rated seller I get a 10% discount on my final value fees so they, rather graciously, only charge me 9%. If you log onto the ebay UK fees for private sellers it quotes the 10% up to £75, business is a flat 10% of every penny you sell for.

I assume that you were chasing the same tickets as me Peter? Womens beach volleyball, bring it on!

It would be in the ball park if it was EF, sadly it looks like a raggedy assed GVF complete with rim nicks, edge knocks and scratches to me.

I don't smoke and as for the Foster's, I'd rather waste it on the lottery! I was aiming a small shot across the bows of the heaving masses Derek. That life choice is one which is made tens of thousands of times a day across the country, rather than clothing/feeding children/themselves etc. £10 wouldn't buy one of Cubas finest or half a bottle of my favourite malt (unfortunately).

I was going to buy 10 tickets but then I realised that rather than waste my money on non-essentials I should really spend it on a 6 pack of Fosters and 20 Regal King size.......

No, I am not Victor Meldrew,,,,,,,,but, the Royal Mail kindly dropped a totally unsolicited copy of The Phoenix (Coincraft sales pitch for those who don't know) on my doormat this morning. Front page OFFERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ed VII first and last shillings in VG (piss poor) £34.50, yes £34.50 A "Treasure Coin" East India Co 10 Cash EF £29.50, VF £17.50 (you can usually buy them carded in A UNC for £1-£4 And I have saved the best until last; 300+ Year Old Silver Crown, William III (no date given but certain to be a 1696) VG (piss poor again) £245, Fine £350 Quick question folks, "Is Piracy still a capital offence in the UK?"

And me!! Classic!!! How would the law stand on this, now he has been told several times John, is that deemed "knowingly" enough, evidence wise? It used to be "obtaining property (ie cash) by deception" but the Theft Act was overhauled just as I was leaving in 2009 so I don't know which section it would come under now, but, yes it is a criminal offence. Whether or not there would be enough Police Officers left in Cambridge to be able to spare one for an investigation is of course another matter!

It didn't! An obnoxious, odious tit (and that's just me) John 150 Thank you for your advice and your concern. The coin is a genuine find and belongs to my nephew the Finder. As a former Police Officer you should have left the Paranoia behind when you left the 'Job' Nobody is being forced to bid. The information on the listing is freely available on Wikipedia If in Doubt DON'T BID First of all I resent your allegations that "I am knowingly offering for sale a forgery" I know nothing of the sort and I am yet to be shown that this coin is a forgery. I would tread carefully when making accusations especially IN WRITING. You could not have been a very competent Police Officer in my estimation. And there's more I have just had an offer to purchase this coin direct as a result of all the flack. i may remove it of my nephew agrees So Thank you Caped Crusader

Satrt at the bottom and read up! Dear dullahan78, 2 reasons. 1) I am a full time professional coin dealer and I do not like to see buyers being ripped off. 2) I am a former police officer and to knowingly offer for sale a forgery is fraudulent and a criminal offence. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and tried to stop you from unwittingly passing on a fake to an ebay buyer. I guess you know full well what you are attempting so I'll leave the ball in your court. - john8150_0 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: dullahan78 To: john8150_0 Subject: Re: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486 Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 16:43:48 BST Dear john8150_0, This is the third message I have had in this Vane. I don't know how to answer you any other way than advise you THAT if this is what you believe WHY are you bothering to concern yourself AT ALL - dullahan78 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: john8150_0 To: dullahan78 Subject: Details about the item: john8150_0 sent a message about 1860 Victorian Copper halfpenny #180937503486 Sent Date: 26-Jul-12 13:39:07 BST Dear dullahan78, This is one of the recent Chinese forgeries isn't it? Regards, John. - john8150_0

Yes it is a bit of die fill. You are a wee bit harsh on the grade though. It looks to be VF give or take half a grade.

Well Peter, as Stuart says, I am the generous one so I will send you a couple of Romeos, oh damnation, I don't have your address so I will have to smoke them myself PS Welcome home Ski.

Unfortunately I am in North Cumbria, if I was closer I could have given you a current market valuation. Your gold is worth more in the coin market than the scrap market. The silver averages about £15 per item in auction, although some could well be lower mintage and worth considerably more (even some 2000 dated coins are worth over £100 each due to low take-up), so again worth selling as coins rather than scrap. Somebody closer may be able to help you, if not book yourself a weekend in the Lakes and give me a call! John.

I don't profess to be an expert on coins, but I sat in a saleroom last week and pulled a 1933 crown and an 1893 £5 that were both fakes. I even managed to ID the £5 purely from the auction house website pictures. Dave is sort of right, handle coins as regularly as you can and in as many states of preservation as you can. Peck mentioned weights earlier in this post and that is one of the very best methods of determining fakes. Another top tip (that nobody other than a zombie should need) DO NOT BUY ANYTHING FROM CHINA, CHINESE SOUNDING SELLERS, CHINESE SELLERS REGISTERED IN OTHER PARTS OF THE WORLD or any ebay seller that you cannot get a decent feel for via feedback. The China thing isn't rocket science, high grade, cheap and relatively common (Gothic Crowns included) = BLOODY FAKE I have said it over and over again, lack of knowledge and greed (the thought of getting a £200 coin for £20) will lead to financial ruin for many. There was no response at all from the ebayer (squirry I think) when I pointed out that the high grade coins he had bought on ebay from China were all fakes. Draw any conclusion you like from that but the obvious ones are 1) he did not want to admit a mistake or 2) he is going to pass them on to some sap on ebay UK at a huge profit.....