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Very nice, and I hope you have fun finding out what family it comes from! Not my area, but I had a friend who was much into these (sadly recently passed), so I was involved occasionally helping him ID these. A few thoughts: I think the animals may be Ermine in heraldic terms, so "3 Ermine left" or "3 ermine sinister" may feature in the description. The divider is known as a "Bend" It is possible this one is for a lady, because of the floral surround. The gentleman would usually have a shield. Looks to be 18th or 19th century.

Not oft are medieval mints still around that minted coins during the hammered era - here is an example of an Irish penny from King Edward I that was minted in Reginalds Tower in Waterford Ireland. Reginalds Tower Waterford

I guess like many others whilst wandering around I find interest in other items, I've bought items to sell on and fund the military Medals & Coins. to be honest I inevitably keep said items, Sunday 05/01/25 was a poor turn out and I was miffed to have wade through a pile of old items "one last stop before charity shop donation" box. fortunately one dealer is chaotic, random, and can be described as the most uncommitted coin dealer of all sorts, I went through 3 boxes of coins all different ages, countries & beaten up, I hate to think how many others have gone through and your just dealing with the left overs, on another note its impossible to know how he works out how much the coin may be worth... its a buyers luck if you come away with a bargain.... none of your nicely organised books of coin holders here!!!! Any ways, I like this dealer!?!??!?! and can chat and happy with my lot that i found in one of the boxes of "coins from hell and back" its a letter Seal (made of steel) i do like it, it looks like it would have been for a watch chain, Coat of Arms to be advised..... £15 was talked down to £10.. all in all a nice piece of cool Junk! Many thanks "H"

Who cares about Harold or Harthcanute, when there is Alice??? Lol.

If in doubt, leave it out. Simples. They've stopped sending out catalogues ('to do their bit for the environment'). In response, I for my part am also doing my bit for the environment by not spending a day going through each lot one at a time (processing power takes a lot of resources too). Now I just look at the thumbnails and see if the coin is potentially of interest. I know I missed plenty in the last sale, but I'm afraid there are only 24 hours in a day (still, despite technological advances). As for Thursday's sale, quite a few lots were self eliminating due to not knowing what I was bidding on. Sloppy cataloguing in recent times means trust nothing written unless you can verify it yourself, with various examples of incorrect descriptions and provenances that simply aren't true. All they had to do was consult the catalogues in question, look at the images and save writing bs. They are not alone.

Many thanks, these last 2 days has been of a great help and direction, wrongly I thought the groats were older one Henry III penny is dated 1232-34, so made up that this is so old, once again many thanks one and all with this new information, I really couldnt have done this by myself, Rgds "H"

Groats were a very late 13th and mostly mid 14th century thing. They were released in small numbers during the reign of Edward I, but were minted in much larger numbers during the reign of Edward III

No - a short cross penny of Henry III as Coinery states above. Groats are much larger!

The correct orientation of the obverse is as shown, with the arrow passing more or less through the centre of the bust (the coin is struck off-centre) - the triangular set of pellets represent the crown.

Henry III short cross coinage class 7 moneyer is Ioan Chic of Canterbury Take a look at the below website (look under coins & jetons), you can learn a lot from trying to narrow down an ID for yourself, it’s worth the effort https://www.rodblunt.com/

If you missed the first episode of the new Digging for Britain series on BBC 2 this evening, 7th Jan 2025, it is worth catching up with it on I Player. They show the Suffolk hoard of Harold I, Harthcanute and Edward the Confessor in much better detail than they usually do with coins. The penny that they can track as minted in Eastcheap London is particularly interesting, and they say unique. Here is the BBC news report on the same hoard: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c9wl9re5j1qo

My misconfabulation - Alice Roberts!

Alice Walker? I thought she was from Luther?

I often get asked how hammered coins were made (beyond the 'hammered' bit), so put together a quick, light-hearted step-by-step guide. Thought it might be handy for those new to the field. Step 4 is by far my favourite.

It's a function of the buoyancy of auction sales in the current climate. Everybody and their dog are jumping on the auction bandwagon because people are paying silly money for average material, so it's a one way ticket to riches for the auction houses. You routinely see lots selling for multiples of similar items in dealers' trays. The volume of material means that auctions would take forever if lotted singly. This volume coupled with indiscriminate buying is also contributing to the sloppy cataloguing IMO.

I agree, Alice Walker is also an attraction, though Lucy Worsley on Friday is slightly more to my taste!

I delete all the cookies on my phone, regularly. Seems to sign me out of everything. Even here. Have to sign back in, to catch up.

Hello, New to the forum, Ive been interested in a multitude of items over many years and now I have time on my hands so need to play catch up as time is catching up on me as well. I've had a stroke in April 2024 and need to keep my head working as some time its broken. I have a collection (of sorts) of coins and will show and tell what I can remember, a few years back a pile of worn out silver ones were sold for scrap and a bought some others to replace these. many thanks for adding me to the forum I really need a new this in my life now, all the very best "H"

Thanks for looking into this for us, MM, much appreciated 👍

Very occasionally eBay produces the goods. The photos was quite dark but I decided to take a punt and I'm pleased I did, Middlesex DH801