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The subliminal reason I picked "Secret Santa" as my Forum name !

Pecks was more a catalogue of coins in the BM, an extension of the publication, and consolidation the work of Greuber,.whereas Bramah was essentially a rewrite of Christmas whose book was not made publicly available and most of the copies were destroyed soon after his death by his family. These were surveys from general population of coins observed in circulation at the time.

I find it hilarious that the 'k' in 'Manc-Wan*s' is replaced by an asterisk however the word at the end of the sentence is totally devoid of censure. I always thought that the latter was higher regarding its order of precedence on the Offence table.

I did an exercise on ebay for a full 5 years between 10 and 15 years ago where I took images of all Victorian Copper Pennies that were listed. Over that period, for 1856, there were 138 PT's listed and 79 OT's, some may have been listed more than once, but figures are still comparable....I think. Maybe this gives a guide as to rarity. There were very few in high grade, both types.

from urban dictionary Plastic Manc Alternative term for a supporter of Manchester United football club who has never set foot in Trafford, the club's home town, let alone been to any games. Their prevalence seems to be directly proportional to the success of the club. Also known as 'Manc-Wan*s', 'Tossers', 'Glory-Hunters', 'Woollies', 'Scum' and 'Cunts'. Usually found lurking in bars, public houses south of Birmingham. A typical conversation that takes place between other teams supporters and a "Plastic Manc". "I see Man U played well this weekend" "What score did we win" "You won 2-1" "who were we playing?" "It was the Manchester derby" "Ha ha we beat city...GETIN THERE" Gloryhunter Armchair Fan Plastic Manc

Yes, good point. I am not sure established rarity scales of times past apply to top grade coins nowadays...This would be pennies as well as the silver series of Victoria. As far as the 1856 penny, I am not sure if I would rate either type as significantly scarcer as I have seen "streaks" of appearances of both.

That is a good question. All i can say is that Spink shows the ornamental trident prices to be slightly higher than the plain trident prices. So i guess that it is there opinion or findings.

Yes, it's the book that got me hooked on pennies.

This might sound odd, but that sort of surface, cheek and forehead, I normally see on cast metal...how very strange.... It's almost like someone 'cleaned' it with a very fine sandblaster....

Makes a change from kippers!

And not for the first time boris gets.................

This has made me laugh longer and harder than anything i can remember this year, and I can't explain why.

Yes, Gouby doesn't list this one.