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Well my Freeman 69 from John's halfcrown and penny auction through PFK, arrived today. Very pleased. I do genuinely think it deserves a spot in this thread, as it's not often you can get such a rare coin in VF or above. There are a few slight edge knocks, and a bit of a divot from the Shield across the upper part of Britannia's legs, which don't detract given the rarity. Otherwise problem free. Fields are nice and clear.

I've now tried a new technique for me, based around my knowledge of chemistry, which seems to have worked. I mixed a small quantity of flowers of sulphur with water and a squirt of washing up liquid (Fairy Liquid for the purists), and mixed it up for an hour or so. Then I placed the silver coin to be toned in the sludge of sulphur at the bottom of the cup. Left it for about half an hour, then turned the coin so that the other side was facing down into the sludge. Then I monitored the toning as it proceeds, regularly turning, until I got the shade of grey that matched the other coins in the made up set. Washed the coin under clean water and dabbed it dry. The result was pretty good, with the fourpence toning slowly and nicely down to very near the other coins over a period of 5 hours or so. No funny colours or other effects, so now the set looks like it has always been together. For a control, I also placed a scrap George IV crown into the mix and just left it. The whole thing turned a very dark grey, almost black over 24 hours. I wouldn't recommend this approach, but the method I used certainly brought very good results for a one off coin. The only caveat on this method is that it is important to monitor the coin and turn it regularly, otherwise the toning won't be even from one side to another. I also wouldn't use this technique on anything really valuable, but for a cheap fairly common coin I was pleased with the results. All this method has done is reproduce, in a cup, the effects of sulphur in the atmosphere over a period of many years. The chemistry is very basic. The sulphur reacts with the Silver and Copper in the surface of the coin to produce the respective Sulphides, which are black. Hence the black tarnish to Silver that accumulates over the years. Simples!

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It's doesn't seem an english emission , I'd go for a contemporary continental penny

Nothing exciting a 1908 F164...... i only bought it as you dont see many of them. Or maybe its just that i have a coin buying addiction

i cant id them class wise for the life of me lol, have seen the ukdfd guides but cant get me head round them, Henry III is A different story though ,

Nice one Mike, good pickup! btw...Have you ever noticed the large number of coin collectors named Michael? Michael Freeman, Michael Gouby, and Michael (1949Threepence)!

Very nice coin, Mike. It's a little more common than the F76 but there aren't many nice ones around.

Nice bunch of Eddys. If you want free help on identification i find this websites great for Edwardian long cross classification. http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/edwardian-Pennies/Edwardian%20Pennies%20P1.htm#The groups Theres also a section on there for voided longcross classification http://www.ukdfd.co.uk/pages/Long-Cross-Pennies/Long%20Cross%20Pennies%20P1.htm (henry III) also there is www.henry3.com for voided longcross help.

Well better news, John. I e mailed them and asked what the position was, and Liam e mailed back apologising. He said it had been posted today, and gave me a tracking No. So with a bit of luck and a following wind, it should arrive tomorrow.

But this IS 40 years ago….. An iconic photo of The Ramones playing Eric's Club in Liverpool, May 1977. Yours truly arrowed.