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Please see the attached image. I have circled what appears to be a difference in the hair both coins are the same year and the same die pairing. The toned coin shows what appears to be machine doubling to leaves in the wreath and to some of the legends. Could this be the reason for the difference in the hair. I have not included a full image of the coin because I'm still thinking whether I will purchase the coin or not.
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Hi, I'd really appreciate some help with the attached if at all possible. I think I can make out the H for HENRICVS on the obverse, so I'm thinking Henry III longcross??? The reverse looks a bit weird - double struck maybe? If any one can help with confirming its ID that would be great. Anything else including class, mint etc would be a bonus! Many thanks in advance James
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The angle of that V is slightly steep, but there could well be a die like it somewhere…no denying that near-horizontal line in the image, though. I reckon that’s an Irish farthing myself. Couldn’t clearly see that in the first image. By the way, that’s a VERY decent couple of images, second time round 👏👏
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That is a stunning spot, Stu 👏👏👏
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Is there a triangle on the obverse or is it just my eyes ? Could it be...Irish ?
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Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
wlewisiii replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
I have a jar as part of my tool kit and tested it on a gothic florin with a lot of damage from being ex-jewelry so that if it was bad, I hadn't harmed anything especially valuable. I took a shallow bowl, poured in a bit of the dip and used it like you describe. Within it's limits, it's a good tool in the arsenal. - Last week
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Indeed, the rule is in focus…however, the coin itself is most definitely not! And, who on earth is www.HistoricCoinage.com? Is he that fine fellow, who doth inhabit the county of St Cuthbert’s resting place?
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Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Peckris 2 replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Tip: place the coin GENTLY into the dip for ONLY TEN SECONDS. retrieve gently and rinse thoroughly in clean water, then dab dry gently with a clean lint-free cloth. If that doesn't remove all the discoloration, learn to live with it. -
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terrysoldpennies replied to Prax's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
1861 Freeman 28 5+G Managed to pick this one up recently , in not to bad a condition and its an upgrade for me . A devil of type to find in high grade !!! 😊 -
Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Citizen H replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
a small test area on the outer edge may be an option before hitting of either of sides .... may be ethanol just a thought please see below 👍 Ethanol can clean silver, but it is important to use it cautiously. Isopropyl alcohol can help remove light tarnish and grease, but it may damage certain finishes. Pure ethanol is generally considered safe for silver, but avoid using denatured alcohol or those with additives. Prolonged exposure to alcohol can lead to subtle changes in silver's surface properties, so it's best to use it sparingly. For optimal cleaning, consider using 70% rubbing alcohol or an alcohol-based cleaner, ensuring no harmful additives are present. Always test on a small area first to prevent any potential damage. -
Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Coys55 replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
That’s what I thought. I wonder what the chances are of getting all that stuff off? Difficult to know without knowing exactly what it is unless we’re sure it’s degraded foam. -
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Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Paddy replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
If any plastic is still adhering to the coin, then Acetone will probably clear it and you can then review progress. It won't do any harm. -
Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Coys55 replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Would silver dip even get under the foam if it's covering most of the surface? I've been googling the "degraded foam" issue and some people suggest bathing in acetone. I can see why that may work if the fone is plastic based and I believe it's safe for silver coins becasue it's not a polish or abrasive. Any comments? -
.....its actually as the coin is.... if you take a look at the ruler the measurement is clear... a blurry coin with little to go on....its truly rubbed, washed and being only about 10mm in size..I was well impressed that www.HistoricCoinage.com was able help out. 👍🙏
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Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Coys55 replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
Ah that’s a thought; I once had a nice set of technical drawing instruments in a foam-lined case and when I opened it after about 40 years in storage it was a horrendous mess. It was so bad I just binned the whole lot. But no, I wouldn’t clean it myself in anything other than soap and water, and I assumed that silver dip would fall into the cleaning category and be a non-starter. Do you think that silver dip get that stuff off, if that’s what it is? -
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1887jubilee replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
It looks like it has been stored in one of the early cases with foam lining. The gasses given off produce the horrible uneven toning. NEVER CLEAN COINS Silver Dip works every time. -
Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
Coys55 replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
It’s a 1932, mintage 2,935. I don’t own it, but am thinking of bidding if it’s probably OK (although I’d be covered if it wasn’t) and recoverable from its present state. it would be a pity if it is OK but not restorable. -
Wreath Crown - Horrible Discolouration
wlewisiii replied to Coys55's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
It pings like silver I suppose? Perhaps have it tested to ensure it is actually 50% silver? I wonder mainly because that appears to be 1936 and there were only 2473 of them minted so it would be a prime target for fakes, then and now. Presuming it's real, there is ~40% copper in the alloy of these, perhaps that's what is causing corrosion? It's just a guess as I've never seen a coin look like this. -
Anyone know what the uneven, patchy discolouration on this wreath crown could be and if it may be possible to rescue it (i.e. clean it) from its present sorry state? It doesn't look like normal extreme toning to me and if it had been left in a draw for almost 100 years I would have expected the discolouration to be more one-sided than almost completely even. Although it looks horrible like this, beneath the crud it looks pretty good. Maybe even EF+? Oh and I'm assuming it's OK...
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well......these are ones that have been picked up years ago....I'm still working through boxes, what's to keep, what's to rehome... etc, I don't have this date and so.... I end up moving the coins on the page so they remain in date order.... its a real challenge wondering how many spaces to leave between coins just in case another one turns up....... 😟 Why? do I put my self through this????