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First and third are definitely cinquefoil. I can't make out what is going on with the middle image. Coins of England (the Spink book previously) has a good image of both stops - page 511 in my 2024 edition. Note also that for a long time a star stops version of 1845 was listed, but this has now been debunked and it is not listed in the more recent books. Star stops only occur on 1844 Crowns.

Looking into when the first Victorian Crown was minted and in circulation got to wondering about... cinquefoil and star on edges If by chance would anyone have images of the star version I believe x 2 of mine are cinquefoil, 1 x ? its rubbed so why Im asking for a comparison. any comments on the crowns I have showing greatly appreciated. 👍

Plenty of silver types, of which I am looking for a specific one. Without trying to state the obvious, it has cast copy 'written' all over it in the form of casting pits. Even if it was genuine, desirable it ain't.

There are silvers for both 1713 and 1714, but the portrait on the ebay coin is all wrong. Numista is never reliable. https://www.colincooke.com/ccc_queenanne.

There was a copper farthing in 1714 with Anne on it. According to https://en.numista.com/13073 There are no silver pattern coins listed. So, yes, I would say that that was an easily discovered fake and that the seller should be considered unsafe.

I'm not an expert on the Anne pattern farthings!

From my observations, it's preferable to use the second N of PENNY rather than the P. Both vertical limbs point to teeth on a regular coin, spaces on a HT. Because the limbs themselves are much narrower it easier to be certain you've picked the right line.

Possibly silver, I don't know. A genuine Anne farthing? Not likely. 😁

That's supposed to be silver??

Hello Rob and many thanks for getting back to me on this matter, very pleased to have found another oddity 👍

Could be double struck with another coin trapped in the dies, but equally could be another coin in a different metal in close contact with it in wet, acidic conditions leading to electrolysis (2 different metals in near contact under those conditions will generate a potential difference. Think in terms of a battery. Given the level of corrosion seen, either is possible.

Same seller: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/287323936829?itmmeta=01KRX7WT4HCDJK4FW405YX1FA8&hash=item42e5d7583d:g:Zh8AAeSwC1ZqAMTQ

Definitely not the genuine article, but will definitely be the coin in that little group that will catch the highest bidder out, as there’s nothing else in there they could possibly be wanting!

My thought’s exactly! There seems to be an influx of fake Lizzie halfpennies at the moment, I wonder about this one too with the key over woolpack facing the wrong way and a very uneven border. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/287335422050 Jerry

Someone’s going to get their fingers burnt! https://ebay.us/m/qPGfJ7

Sorry to burst your bubble Paddy, but I'm almost certain from the pictures that it's NOT a recessed ear.

1864 half penny, looks like it had a crude hole made in it many years ago, a touch piece ?

It is always worth ignoring die damage on a generally heavily circulated denomination in scarce condition. A few years ago I had an A/R in CAR farthing with weak central areas that I wanted a fair, but full price for on the grounds that I had only traced mine and the Colin Cooke example. Someone I know locally refused to pay so much in the hope one would turn up. Happy to report he's still waiting.........

Maybe p'ing in the wind as an idea, but given the shape of the three, is it a 3 with a damaged top half, then subsequently repaired with something like a Maundy 7 punch for example? Or any other smaller denomination for that matter? The reinforcing of existing legends is well documented, so to have such an unconventionally shaped 3 is fairly illogical, given the mint officials' mentality at the time. just trying to think outside the box given the relatively conventional lower loop.

I don't think Charlie would be too impressed with truck loads of cupro - nickel dumped in front of the palace.

There was/is a collector called Bianchi…CNG are selling off his/her collection!

I am confident enough that it is a recessed ear, and that is good enough as it is going into my own collection. @Martinminerva also expressed the opinion that it was right in a previous post in this topic. I already have an example with the broken tooth in only slightly worse condition, so I will keep both to cover my bases. Neither will be sold until I pop my clogs, by which time I won't care anyway!

I think the problem is Paddy that without the broken/smaller tooth above the colon , you would be had put to convince a buyer that its a Recessed ear type . Below is my coin which has a very slight damaged colon tooth , also another picture of a worn coin which is clearly a recessed ear, but you can see that the tooth is intact but very slightly smaller than the other teeth. If I were you I think I would try to find one with one of those faults on the colon tooth .

I'll have to pass on that question for now Richard , but I will let you know in due course