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You've answered your own questions/observations perfectly.

That obverse is such an obvious repro

I used to keep a few, purely for amusement.

Nearly scrolled…honestly, just stick with the enquiry…I really hope you get your answer or, better still, a B over R coin 🍻

No, it’s not an R over B; unless it’s the same coin, I’ve seen this flaw mis-described before, even major auction houses are chancers at times. Jerry

I'm aware that the difference between the example images can be/is the amount of wear, if the letter B is worn down enough you would see the straight section of the of the R shown in the top right corner of the bottom loop of the B creating the straight section.

First of all I'm not asking for financial advice about whether or not to purchase a coin. Secondly I'm only asking opinions on whether or not the coin in question "could" be B over R based on the image provided. I know its a poor image, which in turn limits the ability to awnser the questions with any confidence. I'm simply looking for opinions on the question outlined above. Comments unrelated to the question I won't address. If you are not interested in this type of question please simply scroll on by. Note the image on the left is the coin in question. And the other two images show examples of B over R one without a straight edge in the top right corner of the bottom loop of the B and second example with a straight edge in the top right corner of the bottom loop of the B. Im quite sure the coin in question is not a B over R coin, however I'm interested to hear others opinions. Thank you.

I have told my son what has value and what is "I thought it was cool looking" and what is "why the fuc* did I buy that?"

I can see this as a possibility, and I did test the water with the family....little interest on any front other than "What's it worth?" or..... I could consider a Viking Burial ? 🤔 in regards to the future of my coins... nothings been set in stone ,,,,or been put in a slab 😉👍

I could see doing that but I'd rather give my son a shit ton of good silvers that can be sold here and there as needed rather than everything all at once. I'll never sell any of my collection. But my son is free to do anything he wants/needs to do.

"It is still a classic example of being reminded to grab the best you can afford because that's better than none. " couldn't agree more with this statement...its kinda the way I've been through life, I was "Collecting / Hoarding ?!?!" in a day of uncertainty with recession ..... times moved on and over everything....once I was asked Why??? rubbed worn out scrap??? its what's around and what's I can afford, yeah! some good...some bad....but good to have a something to show for my efforts...the slab thing I don't get either is it just hype or what ultra purest collectors really want?? how many of mine can be considered to be slabbed?? However, I must admit I'm considering at one point in history I will auction all the silver coins off, and buy a single gold coin with the proceeds, this will be a heirloom and to remain within the family........

Lobel or Noble? Trying to work out if it is a misprunt. Jim Noble in Oz used to send out lists too, hence the request for clarification. Good luck finding someone who keeps Coincraft's price lists. most aren't even read before the bin calls. I usually peruse them before binning, but only keep them if there is something worthy of recording. And amusing as it may seem, 1967 pennies at a fiver a pop, or whatever, is not a good reason.

I saw them 6 times altogether - 5 with Gabriel, once without. If you want to see the nearest thing to an actual Genesis show these days, Steve Hackett's tours usually focus on a particular era, much as Nick Mason's 'Saucerful of Secrets' tours concentrated on pre-DSOTM Floyd. Hope you enjoy the show! (Just watched The Musical Box on YouTube, at Hammersmith Odeon - they seem pretty good )

I know - I am fairly thick skinned, so I can live with their abuse when they do that! The background of the seller - the quantity and quality of their feedback and the fact that others on here have bought successfully from them in the past suggested that maybe they were genuinely unaware of the issue.

That's unusual they usually tell you to f***off and tell you your an idiot with S**t for brains

Going to see"he music box" at the bridgewater hall tomorrow well its not really genesis but its very close its 48 years almost to the first time i saw them in 1978 at knebworth for a fiver tickets for tomorrow are £60 but hey you cannot take it with you and life is for living ......... just put some old cds on and enjoying myself

I try to avoid "slabbed" coins as made by the third party grading services like NGC however this time it's worth it for the verification that it is a genuine coin, even if harshly cleaned. In this case, there is a bit of historical significance to the coin. On the reverse is a small trident to the side of the mint mark of A. "A" signifies the Paris Mint and the trident was the privy mark of Zéphyrin Camélinat, who was the treasurer of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune">Paris Commune of 18 March to 28 May of 1871</a>. Despite the foot dragging of the bankers and the approaching troops of the conservative republican government, he managed to produce, it is believed, about 75,000 5 Franc silver coins, 30,600 of which were in two wagon loads that were taken to the front lines directly from the Paris mint so that the doomed soldiers fighting for the Commune could receive their back pay on May 20 as the final battles began. <a href="The Coins of the Commune">The Coins of the Commune</a> (the term sou survived from pre-revolutionary France as a slang word for 1⁄20 of a franc - thus 100 sou = 5 francs) One in nearly perfect condition recently sold for $9,000 and fakes are all too common. This one, with the damage from the heavy cleaning - the scratches are quite visible even through the slab - was "only" $295 and moves into 5th place in my "you spent how much on a single coin???" list. It is still a classic example of being reminded to grab the best you can afford because that's better than none. Nevertheless this will be the gem of my French coin collection.

Just for the hell of it I messaged the seller yesterday evening to point out it was a replica (being polite!) and I see this morning that it has been taken down.

Hmmmm! 😵‍💫 https://ebay.io/m/qhFQNH https://ebay.io/m/yVcSXe

Did you see the silver one in the Stroud sale?

many thanks Nick, its great to be able to see a comparison, subtle differences but great to be able to see how they compare, many thanks for the input, greatly welcome. 👍

You have an example of dies 1A I believe. Here is a picture of a 1C:

would be handy for sellers if they didn't bother

And this seller is someone I have bought from in the past and have never had any qualms about. I guess he has been hoodwinked himself - wonder what he paid for it, and from whom...?

I see the replicas are re-appearing. This one purports to be a proof: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/206353463647?itmmeta=01KVAT58VF6ZRR0WDV2XM92C2E&hash=item300b9ff95f:g:u3EAAeSwkcBqMm2A&itmprp=enc%3AAQALAAAAwGfYFPkwiKCW4ZNSs2u11xDqKzVvcjzhpKWp0V99B8G8QpHw2n7Lx%2BwMDY0sBLDshtsY09foJNFJkQ2F4hgcBp5AYrMW7vo0ghUHfYd7fuPbD%2Bk8PcONFzXtYKy6kLqfhzMB4rPI3yPgEzHJx4je7BqCjuYBeonpYqWSugzalgJloB1ah9SKPxvQGfJxOxR9el6FtTeHofq8pRtrGMGLiMNoUvwYYN1fccJsxd1VuLvFI2D%2FhIlsUoq2M2vK69fjlQ%3D%3D|tkp%3ABk9SR4aOldraZw