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[martinross44]

1863 Penny. Tell me I'm not seeing things....

[Coys55]

3 hours ago, martinross44 said:

1863 Penny. Tell me I'm not seeing things....

I'm not entirely sure what you are seeing, but it's not an H if that's what think it is. Or the face of Jesus either.

[Citizen H]

errrrmmmmmm? found this'un and in the spirit of thing with the penny interest (although I'm not 🤷‍♂️) I thought id show you all... its not my interest but may float someone's boat...

not sure if its a wonky 6 or misshaped 2 ???? or whatever I'm supposed to be looking out for?!?!??!

Victorian Penny 1862 👍

 

[martinross44]

12 minutes ago, Coys55 said:

I'm not entirely sure what you are seeing, but it's not an H if that's what think it is. Or the face of Jesus either.

Die number 5

[Coys55]

12 minutes ago, martinross44 said:

Die number 5

Ah, sorry. I don't think it's a 5 either TBH.

[martinross44]

Just now, Coys55 said:

Ah, sorry. I don't think it's a 5 either TBH.

It is much clearer on the original photograph, however I had to reduce it to very low res to get it passed the 500kb max image size!

[Martinminerva]

4 hours ago, martinross44 said:

Tell me I'm not seeing things....

You're seeing things. Another classic case of pareidolia, methinks.

On a genuine die 5, the die number is much larger than your "blob" and also slightly to the right of a border tooth. Your anomaly is to the left... See below:

 

 

Edited yesterday at 01:22 PM by Martinminerva
Extra pictures added

[martinross44]

4 minutes ago, Martinminerva said:

You're seeing things. Another classic case of pareidolia, methinks.

On a genuine die 5, the die number is much larger than your "blob" and also slightly to the right of a border tooth. Your anomaly is to the left... See below:

 

 

Appreciate your thoughts and feedback

[Coys55]

1 hour ago, martinross44 said:

It is much clearer on the original photograph, however I had to reduce it to very low res to get it passed the 500kb max image size!

Can you crop the original photo to the area of interest and then compress the smaller area to 500kb if necessary?

The freeware irfanview will do the job very well. 

[martinross44]

53 minutes ago, Coys55 said:

Can you crop the original photo to the area of interest and then compress the smaller area to 500kb if necessary?

The freeware irfanview will do the job very well. 

This is a cropped image already, taken from a digital microscope and compressed via tinyfy. Which apparently makes it look like I took the photo with a potato. 

[Coinery]

It really is a shame not to see clearer images, it does look 5-like. I do draw caution however from the fact that I can just as easily see an inverted A below the 8. 
Crystal images are an absolute must in these cases.

[secret santa]

Exciting news !

Terry Eagleton has just pointed out to me that a 1926 penny was sold at London Coin auction in 2025 described as a F195 Modified Effigy but is, in fact, only the second ever "recorded" instance of the rare Gouby D+d Mule, i.e a coin with the Modified Effigy obverse but the true 1927 reverse. Obviously it was not recorded by LCA, but it is indeed the second known example. The first example was discovered by Michael Freeman and bought by me.

If anyone on the Forum bought this coin. I would love to know more.

Auction 190, lot 2174.

[Martinminerva]

Hi Richard.

I saw it at the time and was considering putting a bid in but concluded it was a doctored specimen: the 6 on the LCA specimen is surrounded by lighter coloured metal consistent with it having been transplanted from another coin onto an original 1927 coin. 

Quite apart from that, it would have to be a different die too as on your ex-Freeman one, the 6 is over a gap between teeth and rotated slightly clockwise, whereas on the LCA one, the 6 is bolt upright and over a tooth. I can't believe two trial dies were produced striking one coin each! 

Happy to be proved wrong if anyone here did buy it and microscopy eliminates my suspicions...

 

Edited 45 minutes ago by Martinminerva