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[bhx7]

2 minutes ago, jelida said:

You don’t often see either for sale, and unless properly described it is a bit ‘pot luck’. My lustrous F175 was a bargain just under £100 from a dealer at the MCF, but my similar F176 was nearer £300 at LCA. They are both very rare in UNCish grades. I would have thought £50 would not be unreasonable for a nice VF, but that is just my thought rather than evidence based.

Jerry

Thanks Jerry

I am keeping my eyes well and truly peeled for anything VF or above, but they are definitely rarer than stated in the books without a doubt. 

[PWA 1967]

I notice Mark Rasmussen has a couple of quite scarce pennies on his next list 

[Guest Guest]

@PWA 1967 is the list out now

[Accumulator]

I wouldn't normally advertise on this site, but I'm getting rid of various 'penny collector' related items and I'd rather they went to a good home.

I've listed them on eBay today, as two separate lots; books (including Peck, Freeman, Gouby, Bramah etc.) and also catalogues (Freeman, Norweb, Bamford, Adams etc.).  I would consider all of these essential for any serious penny collector. 

Links are here: books & catalogues

I also have various penny-related Quadrum capsule items and storage boxes if anyone is interested in these?

Steve

[declanwmagee]

If you don't get your reserve. Steve, I'd be very interested in the Bramah.  I have all the others..

 

[1949threepence]

Equally, I'd be interestedin your Norweb catalogues if you don't manage to shift them, Steve.  

[zookeeperz]

Morning guys and gals. thought I would just ask if I got this right. Poor penny I know which makes ID very difficult. But I believe this is  Freeman F14  Obverse 3 reverse E. Am I correct?

Thanking you kindly

 

[Unwilling Numismatist]

I watch with anticipation .. like because, just how?

I have some better than that I couldn't possibly dream of getting close on (except maybe with xrays or time travel).

[zookeeperz]

15 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

I watch with anticipation .. like because, just how?

I have some better than that I couldn't possibly dream of getting close on (except maybe with xrays or time travel).

I used my powers of deduction rev D curves up at the left hand edge so Its not reverse D. That leaves us with  Reverse E as there are no ther reverses used for that year other than the beaded reverses So then it is a case of ID of obverse . Now unless I discovered a new die pairing only Obv 3 was used with rev E . So that is sherlock holmes theory of Identification or deduction as it were
 

[Peckris]

36 minutes ago, zookeeperz said:

I used my powers of deduction rev D curves up at the left hand edge so Its not reverse D. 

It's too worn to see whether the exergue has the curve. Now what you need to tell us is - where are the initials LCW? Below the lighthouse or below the foot? 

[Unwilling Numismatist]

While it's occasionally fun to jest, in all seriousness, how much would a coin in that state actually fetch if it did turn out to be a rare one?

My commmon sense screams "but who on earth would want such a thing?" .. and my OCD side screams back "Whatever it takes to fill that damn gap"...

 

Am I Conflicted much?

 

[zookeeperz]

6 minutes ago, Peckris said:

It's too worn to see whether the exergue has the curve. Now what you need to tell us is - where are the initials LCW? Below the lighthouse or below the foot? 

Can you direct me as to which end the foot is please lols . The more I am looking at it the more I am talking myself out of it being F14

[1949threepence]

Pretty much impossible to tell from yours, as sadly, just a bit too worn. Mine is pictured. In addition to LCW under foot, the rock to the right of the lighthouse is very distinctive, and the ship is not quite on the water. Reverse E is quite unique. 

 

[RLC35]

8 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Pretty much impossible to tell from yours, as sadly, just a bit too worn. Mine is pictured. In addition to LCW under foot, the rock to the right of the lighthouse is very distinctive, and the ship is not quite on the water. Reverse E is quite unique. 

 

 

Really nice example Mike! 

[Unwilling Numismatist]

10 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Pretty much impossible to tell from yours, as sadly, just a bit too worn. Mine is pictured. In addition to LCW under foot, the rock to the right of the lighthouse is very distinctive, and the ship is not quite on the water. Reverse E is quite unique. 

 

#CoinEnvy!

[1949threepence]

8 minutes ago, RLC35 said:

 

Really nice example Mike! 

Thanks Bob. It's the one I got at the Copthorne auction in 2016. I should also have added that the Shield rim is thicker than normal.

[zookeeperz]

7 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

#CoinEnvy!

OMG I almost melted through screen to grab hold of that beauty lol

 

[Mr T]

18 hours ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

While it's occasionally fun to jest, in all seriousness, how much would a coin in that state actually fetch if it did turn out to be a rare one?

My commmon sense screams "but who on earth would want such a thing?" .. and my OCD side screams back "Whatever it takes to fill that damn gap"...

 

Am I Conflicted much?

 

I'm never too sure - I'd personally hold out for something with a bit more meat on the bone still. Tens of dollars would be what I'm willing to spend. 

[PWA 1967]

On 11/1/2017 at 9:34 PM, mrbadexample said:

Righto then, who's going to tell me what on earth went on here? 

I think maybe got it sorted after asking people who are into these  Its a partial brockage a couple / few struck as full brockage then that broke leaving only a part.

Matt (nordle) told me thats what he thought but showed it someone yesterday , i didnt give them any opinions but he said the same.

Not any big deal but its been getting on my nerves and otherwise was going to post it to the RM.

Edited January 8, 2018 by PWA 1967

[secret santa]

Our friend Lucasz is selling this penny on Ebay, describing it as unrecorded but every 1877 F91 penny that I've seen (including a proof) has this "bar" inside the right side of the O in ONE.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1877-Unrecorded-O-over-Sideway-O-Grade-UNC-RARE/332580037835?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50925%26meid%3Df2cf0482d69a43c2ba507285cd123e3b%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D222873729028%26itm%3D332580037835&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

[alfnail]

Think looks more like a repair to an underneath earlier O (at 140x mag).............rather than an N...............but I see it's already reached £261

[zookeeperz]

15 minutes ago, alfnail said:

Think looks more like a repair to an underneath earlier O (at 140x mag).............rather than an N...............but I see it's already reached £261

N? how did they come to that conclusion lol?

[zookeeperz]

8 hours ago, secret santa said:

Our friend Lucasz is selling this penny on Ebay, describing it as unrecorded but every 1877 F91 penny that I've seen (including a proof) has this "bar" inside the right side of the O in ONE.

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-1-Penny-1877-Unrecorded-O-over-Sideway-O-Grade-UNC-RARE/332580037835?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50925%26meid%3Df2cf0482d69a43c2ba507285cd123e3b%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D222873729028%26itm%3D332580037835&_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042

If it was O over sideways O logic would tell us the fat part would be where the thin line is surely?

[PWA 1967]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Victoria-Penny-1860-RFG-For-REG/232689009214?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649

He just makes them all up as he goes along......

[secret santa]

All my F91s look like that.