Rob Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 And the second isWeight 8.56g. 2.4mm thick, 25.4 – 25.5mm diameter. Edge partially grained with even diagonals of insufficient depth. Die axis is 90o acw (270o) from correct position for en-coin.Seller on Alibaba, Sir Liu Quote
Coinery Posted March 13, 2015 Posted March 13, 2015 Not really serious contenders then! I'll look forward to seeing those! Quote
numismatist Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 One of the strange looking 1763 Shillings is now in the next DNW salewith the strange lettering , double striking on the portrait of the kingand the strange drapery . Amazing none from these dies appear to havebeen seen until these two that were discussed turned up Quote
Coinery Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 That tone would take some emulating!Will add the picture to the collection!Would really like the high-res images of your one, Paul? You've got my email! Quote
Coinery Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 Perhaps we should sell your two coins, Rob?151667504155Talking of which, does anyone want to take at look at Rob's two copies, as they are presently with me? Rob is happy for them to do the rounds if anyone is interested?So, any takers please PM me, otherwise they will be making their way back to Manchester. Quote
TomGoodheart Posted May 15, 2015 Posted May 15, 2015 (edited) One of the strange looking 1763 Shillings is now in the next DNW salewith the strange lettering , double striking on the portrait of the kingand the strange drapery . Amazing none from these dies appear to havebeen seen until these two that were discussed turned upI believe that's coinageofengland's coin that was discussed earlier, no? Same light line from 10 o'clock to 3 o'clock on the reverse and marks by the I of GRATIA on the obv and ET on the reverse.. Edited May 15, 2015 by TomGoodheart Quote
numismatist Posted July 16, 2015 Author Posted July 16, 2015 Strange , that the die in question cannot be found in older sales of the 1763 Shillingyet same seller of the £2395 1763 now has another at £1400 and a USA seller hasa much worse looking one at £1256Photo one is of the one already discussed and still up for sale £2395Photo two is the new one same seller has £1400Photo three is the USA one at £1256 Quote
Coinery Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Oh, dear!http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/William-111-crown-coin-1695-/321803575891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aecfce253 Quote
TomGoodheart Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 (edited) Oh, dear! http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/William-111-crown-coin-1695-/321803575891?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item4aecfce253 But why would you bid £00s on a coin if you don't know enough to recognise a copy?? . Edited July 16, 2015 by TomGoodheart Quote
Nordle11 Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Could it be people in the know overbidding to stop it being sold?Like you say, it's obviously a copy... And if I know that then someone spending 200 quid on it surely does? Quote
Coinery Posted July 16, 2015 Posted July 16, 2015 Strange , that the die in question cannot be found in older sales of the 1763 Shillingyet same seller of the £2395 1763 now has another at £1400 and a USA seller hasa much worse looking one at £1256Photo one is of the one already discussed and still up for sale £2395Photo two is the new one same seller has £1400Photo three is the USA one at £1256We must have posted at the same time...will have a proper look at this later! Quote
Coinery Posted September 2, 2015 Posted September 2, 2015 Uh, oh! Scuff some of these sterling silver copies up, and black them with some bleach, then...hey presto...Can someone post the seller's entire list from this one listing please?252077004965 Quote
Paulus Posted September 3, 2015 Posted September 3, 2015 (edited) link Edited September 3, 2015 by Paulus Quote
Coinery Posted November 27, 2015 Posted November 27, 2015 One of the better cast fakes out there! 121824795119 Quote
TomGoodheart Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Well, it certainly would have fooled me. . Quote
azda Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Seller states "it seems too thick and selling as a copy" Quote
TomGoodheart Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 Seller states "it seems too thick and selling as a copy"Yes. It's good they are honest about it. But without that warning (perhaps from less honest seller) it looks pretty convincing in the photos to me...Good spot Stewie!. Quote
Coinery Posted November 28, 2015 Posted November 28, 2015 (edited) I've had two of these before, and seen another in hand, and they're not all thick. In fact the one I had in a W&W lot was 'hammered' thin.This is one of the lesser ones I've seen! Thanks for putting the images up TG! The seller mentioned nothing about it being a copy in the title, which is rather misleading TBH. Edited November 28, 2015 by Coinery Quote
Benny who Posted December 16, 2015 Posted December 16, 2015 Found this,whilst looking at the 1818 Crown fakes floating around,makes me sick the industrial scale at which any of these coins can be produced,There is a picture of a 1934 Crown die half way down the page,so there must be a few of those in circulation be that die split. http://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/United-States-Coins-1878-8TF-Morgan-Wrong-Type-One-Dollar-In-God-We-Trust-Brass-Silver/736125_32548209759.htmlIf they actually made them with their proper alloy,rather than the brass alloy,they said they are using,doesn't bear thinking about how coin collecting would be affected. 1 Quote
Rob Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 Not sure if this is the right place to post, but it sure is helpful. http://augustusmath.hypermart.net/fakesellers.html Quote
PWA 1967 Posted May 7, 2016 Posted May 7, 2016 This just shows there are hundreds at it and they are just the ones on the list Quote
freewheels Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Surely this is a forgery, slab is interesting though http://www.ebay.com/itm/GUINEA-1689-/262444184885?hash=item3d1ae47535:g:LGEAAOSwMr1XPSl3 Quote
azda Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 according to the PCGS website the certificate number is correct, the coin looks fake for sure, so i'd assume that its a fake holder and they've used the cert number from a genuine coin. The other thing to note is that it would be a 10k coin in that grade, for me its a fake definitely Quote
Rob Posted May 22, 2016 Posted May 22, 2016 Somewhat more damning is the use of the 2 guinea busts on a one guinea. It's a forgery all day long. 2 Quote
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