CROWNS

[Rob]

Found this in a list of things previously sold. Here is a similar one to your slightly angled 2, but from a different die as the position relative to the teeth and the 0 relative to the second C of PISTRUCCI shows.

[Benny who]

Found this in a list of things previously sold. Here is a similar one to your slightly angled 2, but from a different die as the position relative to the teeth and the 0 relative to the second C of PISTRUCCI shows.

This also is also similar,however possibly a later strike as the 8 has been restruck;

I think when I first started with these,I thought as Peckris had said,collect one example and move on,however each time I upgraded,the coin was slightly different.Basically I have now dug a hole without a ladder.

[Rob]

Found this in a list of things previously sold. Here is a similar one to your slightly angled 2, but from a different die as the position relative to the teeth and the 0 relative to the second C of PISTRUCCI shows.

This also is also similar,however possibly a later strike as the 8 has been restruck;

I think when I first started with these,I thought as Peckris had said,collect one example and move on,however each time I upgraded,the coin was slightly different.Basically I have now dug a hole without a ladder.

Keep digging. After 3 or 4 thousand miles you will start going uphill.

[divemaster]

Just changing the thread a little, does anyone know how rare the 1888 wide date crown is?

They dont seem to come up very often and prices seem very high. I managed to aquire one last year but havnt seen one since.

I also notice that the variety dosnt seem to appear in ESC.

[Peckris]

Just changing the thread a little, does anyone know how rare the 1888 wide date crown is?

They dont seem to come up very often and prices seem very high. I managed to aquire one last year but havnt seen one since.

I also notice that the variety dosnt seem to appear in ESC.

ESC is stronger on early milled when it comes to varieties. It was based on earlier catalogues from Spink, which catalogued collections in the early 20th Century when people collected early milled but not really modern. Davies is much better for modern stuff. Also bear in mind that ESC is long out of date.

[Rob]

I think we are probably running into the problem of what constitutes a significant variety again. Clearly this is a variety, but if the only difference is in the width of the date then it is not going to fire many people's imagination. The bronze date widths are associated with additional differences in Britannia and the lighthouse, not to mention the shield, so as a package the variety is relatively significant. I suppose it is obvious and therefore easier to justify. I assume it arose when the first 1 & 8 were engraved and the other two digits added with the same spacing.

[ski]

Has anyone ever seen a 1902 edge inscription error coin?

the only referance i have to it is in spink and it says extremely rare.

nothing in esc, davies or david groom.

[Coinery]

Has anyone ever seen a 1902 edge inscription error coin?

the only referance i have to it is in spink and it says extremely rare.

nothing in esc, davies or david groom.

Rather than the usual DECUS ET TUTAMEN ANNO REGNI II, there was this ANNO REGNI ET TUTAMEN II DECUS coin that was sold...

Description: Edward VII, crown, 1902, with error edge reading ANNO REGNI / ET TUTAMEN / II DECUS (E.S.C. - (cf. 361); cf. S. 3978), extremely fine and toned, apparently a previously unpublished variety

http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/edward-vii,-crown,-1902,-with-error-edge-reading-1-c-66wkbzhvss

[Peckris]

Has anyone ever seen a 1902 edge inscription error coin?

the only referance i have to it is in spink and it says extremely rare.

nothing in esc, davies or david groom.

Rather than the usual DECUS ET TUTAMEN ANNO REGNI II, there was this ANNO REGNI ET TUTAMEN II DECUS coin that was sold...

Description: Edward VII, crown, 1902, with error edge reading ANNO REGNI / ET TUTAMEN / II DECUS (E.S.C. - (cf. 361); cf. S. 3978), extremely fine and toned, apparently a previously unpublished variety

http://www.artfact.com/auction-lot/edward-vii,-crown,-1902,-with-error-edge-reading-1-c-66wkbzhvss

Good find, but pathetically small picture

[ski]

thanks for the info......yup the pics not so good.

is this coin thought to be unique?

[VickySilver]

Wow, who had looked at their edges on their 1902 crowns ??? And were the proofs ever effected as that is not in Spink and assume not.

I would fight for one if it came for sale....

[ski]

spink doesnt list an error edge for the proof coin. i suspect with the interest in crowns from others here, that wont be a fight as much as a mass brawl

i just wonder roughly how many there are.

ski

[Peckris]

spink doesnt list an error edge for the proof coin. i suspect with the interest in crowns from others here, that wont be a fight as much as a mass brawl

i just wonder roughly how many there are.

Not from me - I'm more than happy with my BU specimen

[ski]

Not from me - I'm more than happy with my BU specimen

trumps my ef+ then

[Rob]

I don't have one.

[Coinery]

I never procured one outside of the major auctions or dealers that I wasn't happy to sell!

[ski]

I don't have one.

me neither.........you ever seen one?

[Gary D]

I don't have one.

me neither.........you ever seen one?

The 1902 edge error is something I would like. I do have the 1935 currency and proof edge error, I also have the 1951 and 1953 edge error. Would have loved that 1953 with no edge lettering in DNW but someone else was too determined.

[VickySilver]

Darn, somebody was rather pesky on that bit...LOL

Gary, how does the edge read on your 1951?

[Gary D]

Darn, somebody was rather pesky on that bit...LOL

Gary, how does the edge read on your 1951?

CIVIUM INDUSTLORET CIVITAS MCMLI *__gap__ MDCCCLI

Edited March 23, 2013 by Gary D

[Peckris]

I don't have one.

me neither.........you ever seen one?

The 1902 edge error is something I would like. I do have the 1935 currency and proof edge error, I also have the 1951 and 1953 edge error. Would have loved that 1953 with no edge lettering in DNW but someone else was too determined.

I was reading my 1979 edition of CCGB earlier, and Mr Marles had listed the 1953 proof using sandblasted dies, after which he had added the comment "dismal, extremely rare". Doesn't sound highly desirable to me

[VickySilver]

Wow, it rather is nice in appearance I would say to the contrary. Perhaps a photo to follow in the next couple of days....

[VickySilver]

Thanks Gary, hadn't seen that so will look for another specimen maybe. I have a 1953 that has the whole edge overstruck on the edge with garbled legend that looks to be mint done as opposed to post minting damage....

[Gary1000]

Thanks Gary, hadn't seen that so will look for another specimen maybe. I have a 1953 that has the whole edge overstruck on the edge with garbled legend that looks to be mint done as opposed to post minting damage....

I would suspect all the incuse errors are likely to be unique as I assume the error is caused by the coin jumping in the rollers, rather than the raised edge error being cause by the collar being assembled incorrectly.

[VickySilver]

I have one that has but a single letter "overstruck" on the edge though, so that is a bit odd. Also, the lettering order of the overstrike is not in order. So interesting problem here...