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11 hours ago, jelida said:

What do you think of these??

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cnut-Short-Cross-Silver-Penny-Waldlos-Of-Lincoln-1029-35/222779920673?hash=item33deb7d121:g:i-EAAOSwzXxaS~OX

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KING-CNUT-SHORT-CROSS-SILVER-PENNY-1029-1035-AD/332506461339?hash=item4d6aedf49b:g:454AAOSwyYFaS7ly

Ignore the mis-identification of the first, which we have discussed before, the pics to me appear to show reverse matches, even to the peck marks!  I.e. more cast fakes. And the rest of their stock. Get reporting, guys!

Jerry

 

He's sold a few identical ones of those last week. Think i posted them up with another seller based in Tranent. I noticed another seller last night in Sofia , Bulgaria list 4 cnuts and an Aethelred. All almost identical in colour and tone. Definitely dodgy. 

I'll report those two above. ?

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Happy New year.  I,ve reported him as well. Worth a try. I will watch with interest to see if ebay do anything. ?

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Rob and Kal have discussed this within the last couple of days ; another fake.

Jerry

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14 minutes ago, declan03 said:

There was a post about that last week on here. It's an electrotype i think. They usually go for £100 or thereabouts . Some people probably think it's geniune that's why it's gotten so many bids i expect. 

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1 hour ago, Ukstu said:

He's sold a few identical ones of those last week. Think i posted them up with another seller based in Tranent. I noticed another seller last night in Sofia , Bulgaria list 4 cnuts and an Aethelred. All almost identical in colour and tone. Definitely dodgy. 

I'll report those two above. ?

Reported as well!

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33 minutes ago, Ukstu said:

There was a post about that last week on here. It's an electrotype i think. They usually go for £100 or thereabouts . Some people probably think it's geniune that's why it's gotten so many bids i expect. 

Am I missing something here? Whether it's an electrotype or not, it's being presented on eBay in such a way as to deceive in the same way as any counterfeit. Deserves reporting in my view and I have done so!

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11 minutes ago, hibernianscribe said:

Am I missing something here? Whether it's an electrotype or not, it's being presented on eBay in such a way as to deceive in the same way as any counterfeit. Deserves reporting in my view and I have done so!

I reported it the day it was listed and before it was posted here for an opinion. 

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Not sure that it is an electrotype, Kal suggests that it is a replica from dies by a known modern replica workshop, certainly the work is stylistically very poor and the silver (?) surface looks suspicious to me. Not the genuine article anyway, if they were ever produced during the civil war, though it might be a genuine ‘Scarborough Siege Piece’ if they are all more recent fantasy pieces ?.

Jerry

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I know they usually only have Krause, but really??

I repeatedly reported the Premier coin one, and when I contacted their 'expert' all I got was  abuse.

They just hope that no-one knows enough and will spend hundreds on a ten pound coin.....

1897 Penny Great Britain - High Sea Level Variety - KM# 790 | eBay-2.webloc

1897 Penny Great Britain - High Sea Level Variety - KM# 790 | eBay.webloc

Posted
1 minute ago, declan03 said:

A half honest description. Doesn't state a copy, but does say for those who can't afford the £1000 plus. Just needs to dig a bit deeper and come completely clean.

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1 hour ago, Rob said:

A half honest description. Doesn't state a copy, but does say for those who can't afford the £1000 plus. Just needs to dig a bit deeper and come completely clean.

Doesn't have such a detraction phrasing it that way. I am sure if he had used the word replica the bids would be much less . Plus he never actually states it not being genuine only that it's cheaper than the £1000 . Which could infer it's not in the same condition. They know how to word around everything these scammers. Pure scum. I'd shoot the lot if it was legal to do so lol :ph34r:

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1 hour ago, zookeeperz said:

Doesn't have such a detraction phrasing it that way. I am sure if he had used the word replica the bids would be much less . Plus he never actually states it not being genuine only that it's cheaper than the £1000 . Which could infer it's not in the same condition. They know how to word around everything these scammers. Pure scum. I'd shoot the lot if it was legal to do so lol :ph34r:

At £27 for a copy, I'm not sure. There's been no shortage of accurately described copies of various types selling for more. 

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7 hours ago, Ukstu said:

I really don’t like this seller, I got really cross with them about 4 years ago over an Elizabeth martlet shilling that was for sale at £1k. It was at a time I could afford it and offered 900 cash privately, and would pick it up! They wouldn’t budge, and I couldn’t make them understand they’d actually be better off if I bought it without PP and Ebay charges, and with no delivery risks! Grrr! They sold it on eBay about 2 weeks later, annoying!

Anyway, I dislike them even more now, because these people actually know a little bit about coins...enough to know they are being deceptive here!

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Given the mintage of what was it 7 or 8 known examples, if you had one and you knew it had a decent history, 30 seconds on google should have you running directly for a) the royal mint or 2) a reputable coindealer or III) a prominent Coin Aution house.

You wouldn't flog it off to someone who seems unable to speak english for a few quid, surely?

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22 minutes ago, Unwilling Numismatist said:

Given the mintage of what was it 7 or 8 known examples, if you had one and you knew it had a decent history, 30 seconds on google should have you running directly for a) the royal mint or 2) a reputable coindealer or III) a prominent Coin Aution house.

You wouldn't flog it off to someone who seems unable to speak english for a few quid, surely?

Probably Bulgarian!

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3 hours ago, hibernianscribe said:

Probably Bulgarian!

Yes prob a portrait of the local gypo :) Love the explanation of how it became larger by being pulled on. Must get a patent for stretchy Bronze lols :)

 

 

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