zookeeperz Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 14 minutes ago, Rob said: Die clash. The first picture shows the outline of the crown best, with the tie knot and immediate area seen above the head. whats the gothic letter above her head to the right? Quote
Rob Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 It's very common, particularly prior to 1882 when the Mint refurbished and took out the Boulton and Watt equipment that had been in place since the 1810 refurbishment. There are numerous examples through the years. In fact this occurs throughout history. Without the blank in place you will make an impression of the harder die on the softer one. Quote
Rob Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 5 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: whats the gothic letter above her head to the right? Part of the ribbon joining the two branches. Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Rob said: Part of the ribbon joining the two branches. Well I think its been struck on a straits settlement 5 cent FWIW that is part of the gothic crown and resembles nothing on our threepence Edited March 9, 2018 by zookeeperz Quote
Rob Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 8 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: Well I think its been struck on a straits settlement 5 cent FWIW that is part of the gothic crown and resembles nothing on our threepence Sorry, I lied. The 'Gothic' bit is actually the first oak leaf Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Rob said: Sorry, I lied. The 'Gothic' bit is actually the first oak leaf defo struck on a foreign coin I just cant see it in my minds eye where to line anything up lol Edited March 9, 2018 by zookeeperz 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1922-Silver-Rupee-King-George-V-British-Raj-Indian-Coin-NGC-MS63-RARE/292454417712 Do you think NGC might of wrongly attributed this? Looks more like the PL restrike? Quote
Paddy Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 20 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1922-Silver-Rupee-King-George-V-British-Raj-Indian-Coin-NGC-MS63-RARE/292454417712 Do you think NGC might of wrongly attributed this? Looks more like the PL restrike? Interesting. The NGC picture of the coin does not seem to show as much frosting effect as the Ebay listed picture. Also NGC records normal and Proof strikes for 1922, but no Proof-like restrikes. Don't know where that leaves this coin! 1 Quote
declan03 Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1707Queen-Anne-Sixpence/122997781502?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 Here's this seller just knocked out another of these sixpences. Not a bad earner for him at one per week. Quote
Rob Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 2 hours ago, zookeeperz said: defo struck on a foreign coin I just cant see it in my minds eye where to line anything up lol It has suffered multiple die clashes. If you look above the head on the first ebay picture, there are a three displaced triangles. That is the triangle in the ribbon immediately above the knot. Multiple clashing happens frequently. There is a post somewhere else showing this, but I'll add it again to demonstrate. This shilling has a few die clashes with the usual rotational displacement, so you can see the inverted effigy. Quote
Nick Posted March 9, 2018 Posted March 9, 2018 4 hours ago, declan03 said: What would cause this wavey effect on a threepence? Definitely, the result of multiple die clashes. 1 Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 14 hours ago, declan03 said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1707Queen-Anne-Sixpence/122997781502?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 Here's this seller just knocked out another of these sixpences. Not a bad earner for him at one per week. I was going to post that yesterday I thought it was suss. Got sidetracked but good spot . there are a few of those knocking around the sales Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 (edited) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1878-GOTHIC-FLORIN-VICTORIA-MS61-765/253468651604 According to the label NO DIE NUMBER. I guess they missed that great big 54 or did they think it was on the reverse? and a rotated axis . hmmm Edited March 10, 2018 by zookeeperz Quote
Paddy Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, zookeeperz said: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1878-GOTHIC-FLORIN-VICTORIA-MS61-765/253468651604 According to the label NO DIE NUMBER. I guess they missed that great big 54 or did they think it was on the reverse? Well it is NGC who have got it wrong as the same coin is on their website - complete with the 54 die number! Just for fun I have messaged NGC through their website - interesting to see if they respond. Quote
zookeeperz Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 54 minutes ago, Paddy said: Well it is NGC who have got it wrong as the same coin is on their website - complete with the 54 die number! Just for fun I have messaged NGC through their website - interesting to see if they respond. I am thinking they meant to put NO W W. probably were gassing about what they were up to the weekend and buggered it up lol Quote
markflorida Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 On 08/03/2018 at 8:41 PM, Peckris said: Reported Reported. We will see if it run the full auction or they take it down Quote
markflorida Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 1 hour ago, zookeeperz said: I am thinking they meant to put NO W W. probably were gassing about what they were up to the weekend and buggered it up lol I think you are right. They will reslab for free if it is sent in again, they call it a mechanical error. I suppose thats better than "Oops', We screwed up" Quote
DrP Posted March 10, 2018 Posted March 10, 2018 This just made me laugh... I really don't know how you can tell what it is. It is only 99p though. lol. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-I-Silver-Hammered-Half-Groat-Love-Token-With-Centred-Hole/152931223980?hash=item239b6949ac:g:l3oAAOSwor1aZGO6 2 Quote
Paddy Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 Surely people aren't buying these believing they are genuine? Quarter Farthings on Ebay 1 Quote
Unwilling Numismatist Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 With 23 sold, sadly it would appear so Quote
jelida Posted March 11, 2018 Posted March 11, 2018 45 minutes ago, Paddy said: Surely people aren't buying these believing they are genuine? Quarter Farthings on Ebay They must surely be OK, they are coming from China via Moussaeiff Jewellers in the Hilton, on Park Lane! And the gold £5 are only a tenner apiece too! Count me in! Not. Jerry Quote
markflorida Posted March 12, 2018 Posted March 12, 2018 (edited) On 10/03/2018 at 8:29 PM, DrP said: This just made me laugh... I really don't know how you can tell what it is. It is only 99p though. lol. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/James-I-Silver-Hammered-Half-Groat-Love-Token-With-Centred-Hole/152931223980?hash=item239b6949ac:g:l3oAAOSwor1aZGO6 Surely its just a button Edited March 12, 2018 by markflorida Quote
DrP Posted March 12, 2018 Posted March 12, 2018 7 hours ago, markflorida said: Surely its just a button He has a sense of humor though! :-) this is his description:- sounds legit enough, lol. " He we have a delightful James I Silver Hammered Half Groat " Love Token " with hole centred. These were folded in to a " S " shape and given as a token of love in this period." Quote
markflorida Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 Todays fake offerings. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pcgs-gold-coin-1908/142721858862?hash=item213ae2bd2e:g:VBwAAOSw-NFaqXVk https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pcgs-gold-coin-ms63-1910/142721765006?hash=item213ae14e8e:g:29sAAOSwWmNaqVoO https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pcgs-gold-coin-ms63-1882/142721771765?hash=item213ae168f5:g:vJAAAOSwTOtaqVuG https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/pcgs-gold-coin-ms63-1925/142721805943?hash=item213ae1ee77:g:cyIAAOSwWGxaqVzg Ok, everything that seller above has just listed is fake. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1894-PCGS-MS63-one-silver-dollar/112866173987?hash=item1a47592423:g:D8kAAOSwbc5ap53r Quote
mrbadexample Posted March 15, 2018 Posted March 15, 2018 What's this please? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ONE-OLD-BRITISH-COIN-DATED-1701-UNCATALOGUED-ENGLAND/263539255958?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649 I keep looking at it and thinking the portrait actually looks quite good. Quote
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