NGS Grader Had a Bad Day ?

[ozjohn]

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Great-Britain-1-Florin-1918-Silver-XF-Extra-Fine/401793179018?hash=item5d8cbd5d8a:g:D~gAAOSw8w9dDnie   

This one IMO would find it difficult to make Fine.

[Mr T]

I wouldn't be buying it, though I wonder if it's poorly-struck? The details are generally terrible but not all over.

[Peter]

Come on that doesn't reach F .

Mr T I bought a surplus load of kangaroo skin underpants if you would like some....all XF 40. 

[1949threepence]

According to one poster on here XF40 equates to good fine - link to table 

Although according to other equivalence tables it equals EF.

Edited June 30, 2019 by 1949threepence

[Rob]

Thankfully, description says 'may not ship to UK'.

[azda]

4 hours ago, 1949threepence said:

According to one poster on here XF40 equates to good fine - link to table 

Although according to other equivalence tables it equals EF.

PCGS also have a crossover table, their XF40 is VF

https://www.pcgseurope.com/staticcontent/comparison?l=en

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, azda said:

PCGS also have a crossover table, their XF40 is VF

https://www.pcgseurope.com/staticcontent/comparison?l=en

Thanks.

Edited June 30, 2019 by 1949threepence

[VickySilver]

Interestingly, even with the poor pictures, I think I can see an EF40 on this coin - HOWEVER it was very poorly struck. Please look at the rims and denticles as well as the fields (as best you can see). That would be a technical grade.

I certainly would skip on it, that having been said.

[Peckris 2]

Isn't 40% Fine on the Sheldon scale?

[1949threepence]

23 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

Isn't 40% Fine on the Sheldon scale?

Opinions vary, apparently.

[jelida]

11 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

Isn't 40% Fine on the Sheldon scale?

I tend to use the comparison scale at the back of London Coin Auction catalogues which equates Fine as Sheldon 30 and GF as Sheldon 40. I find it overall a reasonable comparison, markflorida quotes it above. But then I frequently disagree, though usually to a fairly minor extent, with third party assigned grades and of course the coin not the slab takes priority. I have total empathy with Robs acceptability criteria. 

Only last week I removed a NGC MS 65 Victorian penny from its slab to remove a tiny (and thankfully superficial) fleck of active verdigris,  you have to be so watchful even of a slabbed collection. I much prefer capsules.

Jerry

 

[jelida]

I think this may be a Friday afternoon coin too. MS 67 with all those bag marks? I wouldn’t want it. And the starting price at a European auction is 750 Euro. Fat chance.

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3295&lot=8765

 

Jerry

 

[1949threepence]

1 hour ago, jelida said:

I think this may be a Friday afternoon coin too. MS 67 with all those bag marks? I wouldn’t want it. And the starting price at a European auction is 750 Euro. Fat chance.

https://www.numisbids.com/n.php?p=lot&sid=3295&lot=8765

 

Jerry

 

That's ridiculous. It might get £7.50 on e bay.

[Peckris 2]

1 hour ago, 1949threepence said:

That's ridiculous. It might get £7.50 on e bay.

On a good day. The only thing in its favour is that the obverse looks as if it's been Mint toned?

[copper123]

That might put an extra £1 on its  £2.50 value unslabed , I agree the slab might make it worth £7.50

Edited July 3, 2019 by copper123

[JLS]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/183773788817

Here's another "bad day" coin IMO; a nice EF+ coin with a few marks on the rim and only an OKish strike is graded in at MS66 ? I thought you were supposed to get "Very well struck with minimal marks and hairlines" at that grade ?

And the price...I've seen better for £150.

[copper123]

MS 60 to me