Best Decimal Coins to collect - thanks, Chris

[Lotad]

3 hours ago, headsortails said:

All the ten pences and five pences pre 2011 are being recalled in and melted down.

Ahh, thanks. What's the reason? To use the metal to mint new coins?

[headsortails]

5 hours ago, Lotad said:

Ahh, thanks. What's the reason? To use the metal to mint new coins?

https://www.royalmint.com/discover/uk-coins/cupro-nickel-replacement/

[copper123]

I would guess they use the easy way to seperate them a magnet

[Peckris]

13 hours ago, headsortails said:

All the ten pences and five pences pre 2011 are being recalled in and melted down.

Why?? 

[headsortails]

Think of the 2008 10p with the lion and the five pence with the thistle, i bet those are propper scarce by now i only had two of the 10ps in my change anyway they were right hard to come by.

Impossible now id say.

[Unwilling Numismatist]

On 07/07/2018 at 10:18 PM, Peckris said:

Why?? 

So the RM can package up the best ones and flog them for $$$ as "historic"?

[scott]

1992 dot to dot, the 2008 old design 10p... couple of scarce 2ps as well

[Paddy]

Incidentally, the old undated 20p seems to have dropped steadily in the market. Average price for (supposedly) genuine ones on Ebay is now £40 to £50. I suspect there are not enough collectors for the 200,000 odd that are supposed to be out there - the youngsters are all into the 50ps and £2 coins, and there aren't enough oldsters around. The presence of the fakes at £4.99 on the market doesn't help either.

[Unwilling Numismatist]

Kews seem to have been dropping with the introduction of prooflike fakes too. I think this years budget is becoming more flexible every week

 

[richtips86]

On 7/17/2018 at 9:43 PM, scott said:

1992 dot to dot, the 2008 old design 10p... couple of scarce 2ps as well

What are the scarce 2p?

[Paddy]

I think the only substantially scarce 2p is the 1983 with New Pence instead of Two Pence. Some other dates were issued in sets only - 1972, 1973, 1974, 1982, 1983, 1984 - I think, and are so a little scarcer than normal. The tales of the 1971 being scarce are a classic case of "Fake news".

I am leaving out proofs and trail coins - that is a different area all together.

 

[scott]

the 2008 Ironside 2p 10,600,000 minted and 2017 10,900,000 according to the royal mint site

 

[Peckris 2]

14 hours ago, scott said:

the 2008 Ironside 2p 10,600,000 minted and 2017 10,900,000 according to the royal mint site

 

That's scarce? 

[headsortails]

On 08/06/2018 at 8:50 AM, Peckris 2 said:

That's scarce? 

It took me four years to find one of those coins in my change post 2008 and to date i have managed to collect two thats regardless of the minting figure.

Sarcerty is linked to availability is it not.

[Peckris 2]

2 hours ago, headsortails said:

It took me four years to find one of those coins in my change post 2008 and to date i have managed to collect two thats regardless of the minting figure.

Sarcerty is linked to availability is it not.

Indeed it is. However, I'm utterly amazed that it took you 4 years to find in your change a coin of which there were 10m minted. Something doesn't quite square...

[Paddy]

I think you will find the same problem with 2017 2p - still haven't seen one yet in any grade.

 

[headsortails]

In 2009 i never found a decent pound coin and i think i put two in the box at collectable grade 27 milloin minted.

In 2010 the minting figure was double that and i found bucket loads,this to me makes little sense as do the minting figures on many occasions.

I think its quite probable that there is a difference in the NO. of coins circulated to that minted.

[Paddy]

I am beginning to doubt all the figures released by the Royal Mint on their website. I was looking at the numbers for 2017 50ps - according to their list there were no Royal Shield ones that year - but I have one and I don't believe they are rare. Mine did not come out of a set I am pretty sure - I picked it up in loose change last year. So what is going on?

PS - I also see that they say no £1 coins were issued in 2016, just 640 million of the new ones in 2017. We all no that is wrong.

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[DrLarry]

1 hour ago, Paddy said:

I am beginning to doubt all the figures released by the Royal Mint on their website. I was looking at the numbers for 2017 50ps - according to their list there were no Royal Shield ones that year - but I have one and I don't believe they are rare. Mine did not come out of a set I am pretty sure - I picked it up in loose change last year. So what is going on?

PS - I also see that they say no £1 coins were issued in 2016, just 640 million of the new ones in 2017. We all no that is wrong.

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surely you cannot doubt the Royal Mint Paddy !!!

[headsortails]

1 hour ago, Paddy said:

I am beginning to doubt all the figures released by the Royal Mint on their website. I was looking at the numbers for 2017 50ps - according to their list there were no Royal Shield ones that year - but I have one and I don't believe they are rare. Mine did not come out of a set I am pretty sure - I picked it up in loose change last year. So what is going on?

PS - I also see that they say no £1 coins were issued in 2016, just 640 million of the new ones in 2017. We all no that is wrong.

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The figure will come in for the 2017 shield 50p paddy,im waiting to see that one for myself.

The coin is very light on the ground.

[Paddy]

Am I right in saying all the smaller 2017 coins are pretty thin on the ground? I see I have none yet below the 50ps and even Ebay seems pretty sparse for them - a few very expensive and that is it.

 

[headsortails]

39 minutes ago, Paddy said:

Am I right in saying all the smaller 2017 coins are pretty thin on the ground? I see I have none yet below the 50ps and even Ebay seems pretty sparse for them - a few very expensive and that is it.

 

Ive saw none of the small change about at all and the small change normally comes out first.

[headsortails]

Ive just had a look paddy and it looks like the pennys are out

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2017-1P-PENNY-from-THE-ROYAL-MINT-BAG-FRESH/392097576820?hash=item5b4ad63774:g:3jwAAOSwAC1aHUfD

[Mr T]

11 hours ago, Peckris 2 said:

Indeed it is. However, I'm utterly amazed that it took you 4 years to find in your change a coin of which there were 10m minted. Something doesn't quite square...

10 million might sound like a lot but the less there are, the less chance of a security company delivering thousands of dollars/pounds worth to anywhere near where you live.

I'm very much into Australian decimals and anything with a mintage of lower than 10 million is, anecdotally, difficult to find.

[Unwilling Numismatist]

10 hours ago, Paddy said:

I am beginning to doubt all the figures released by the Royal Mint on their website. I was looking at the numbers for 2017 50ps - according to their list there were no Royal Shield ones that year - but I have one and I don't believe they are rare. Mine did not come out of a set I am pretty sure - I picked it up in loose change last year. So what is going on?

PS - I also see that they say no £1 coins were issued in 2016, just 640 million of the new ones in 2017. We all no that is wrong.

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Issued = coins released for circulation

minted is what is says on the tin, different aspects of a production run - the only way I can see that what the RM says would fit what we know already.