Penny Acquisition of the week

[copper123]

I would grade it as EF , while there is little wear it is noticeable and the obverse has slight problems as well .

Was the graders name mutly (Always dreaming!)

[Peckris 2]

[Bruce]

10 hours ago, copper123 said:

I would grade it as EF , while there is little wear it is noticeable and the obverse has slight problems as well .

Was the graders name mutly (Always dreaming!)

Maybe bit more harsh, gVF to me, anyway, no where near AU.

[1949threepence]

10 hours ago, Bruce said:

Maybe bit more harsh, gVF to me, anyway, no where near AU.

I'd grade as EF/gVF. Despite the dirt patches, the obverse detail is EF.

Reverse about gVF.

[Michael-Roo]

53 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

I'd grade as EF/gVF. Despite the dirt patches, the obverse detail is EF.

Reverse about gVF.

I agree.

[copper123]

14 hours ago, Bruce said:

Maybe bit more harsh, gVF to me, anyway, no where near AU.

There is an  massive gulf between gvf and AU  I wonder if these gradeing companies employ children and threaten them with a slipper if they dont do as they say

[blakeyboy]

1 hour ago, copper123 said:

There is an  massive gulf between gvf and AU  I wonder if these gradeing companies employ children and threaten them with a slipper if they dont do as they say

That's how I run my workshop.

My accountant has managed to arrange for me to get tax relief on the slippers!

[copper123]

3 hours ago, blakeyboy said:

That's how I run my workshop.

My accountant has managed to arrange for me to get tax relief on the slippers!

Yes Blakey I have a picture of you with your understudy

[Peckris 2]

8 hours ago, copper123 said:

There is an  massive gulf between gvf and AU  I wonder if these gradeing companies employ children and threaten them with a slipper if they dont do as they say

unfortunately, that is the American system for you - everything is "AU" right down to GVF

[1949threepence]

34 minutes ago, Peckris 2 said:

unfortunately, that is the American system for you - everything is "AU" right down to GVF

Their grading standards seem much looser than ours.

[Bruce]

4 minutes ago, 1949threepence said:

Their grading standards seem much looser than ours.

Undoubtedly yes, and they like everything in a small plastic box

[PWA 1967]

A really nice 1893 over 2 Gouby BP1893B ,often wrongly attributed 😀

 

[PWA 1967]

One i have just got back from NGC MS65BN  ,lovely tone for a scarce year in high grade.

 

[Peckris 2]

Lovely coin - certainly scarce in THAT condition.

[PWA 1967]

1826 Penny also just back from NGC MS65BN ,really nice in hand and again with a lovely tone.

 

 

[jelida]

Time to show some recent acquisitions, I have had a couple of bargains in the last couple of weeks.

Firstly a nice 1898 'last 8 bisects' from the last Midland coin fair, unrecognised and £35.

[jelida]

And a 1875 'cannonball' from an online dealer, £11 plus £2.50 postage.

[jelida]

one of the newly discovered 1889 'missing serifs', £6 on Ebay. I have looked at many 1889's, seems scarce. Now I just need an upgrade....

Jerry

Edited September 22, 2024 by jelida

[jelida]

And I had looked at this specimen at £50 in a dealers tray at the Midland Coin Fair many times over the last year or two, but left it thinking it was an F763 (I have several); but when it dropped to £17.50 I thought it worth a punt. On closer examination I think it is an F8B, on the basis of the relationship between last colon and cape,  and the position of the  'dimple' left by the worn rose. What do you think?

Jerry

[secret santa]

2 hours ago, jelida said:

What do you think?

Spot on - that tiny remnant of the Order of the Garter at the bottom right of the bust confirms it.

[secret santa]

11 hours ago, secret santa said:

Spot on - that tiny remnant of the Order of the Garter at the bottom right of the bust confirms it.

[Coinery]

4 hours ago, secret santa said:

Would that eclipse on the middle bead also be a tell tale, it’s a well-protected bead for ID, and is also on both coins? Or is this present on other dies?

Edited September 23, 2024 by Coinery

[secret santa]

4 hours ago, Coinery said:

Would that eclipse on the middle bead also be a tell tale, it’s a well-protected bead for ID, and is also on both coins? Or is this present on other dies?

Not quite sure what you mean by the eclipse on the middle bead - is it the tiny indentation on the top of the middle bead in the picture ? If so, then it will only be detectable on the highest grade specimens, and there aren't many in that condition, although it does seem to be present on all the obverse B coins that I own.

It may well be present on my obverse A coins:

 

 

[Coinery]

4 hours ago, secret santa said:

Not quite sure what you mean by the eclipse on the middle bead - is it the tiny indentation on the top of the middle bead in the picture ? If so, then it will only be detectable on the highest grade specimens, and there aren't many in that condition, although it does seem to be present on all the obverse B coins that I own.

It may well be present on my obverse A coins:

 

 

Yes I was referring to the bead you mentioned…it sits pretty well protected in a channel between deep devices and looks to be present, even on Jerry’s low-grade example? Of course, if it’s common across other obverses, it’s nothing but a moot point.

[jelida]

Yesterday at the Midland Coin Fair, an F28 for only £3. Always worth a rummage.

Jerry