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Do you have a photo Stu?

Hi Rob. No displaced 'S'. My original post relates to the strong and obvious extra letter 'V' which sits underneath, way below and to the left of 'V' in Tertivs. Much too far out of alignment to be a double strike. I do think the damage in the hair area must have happened later.

Good question Dave. I would guess that's post mint damage? I just wondered if there is any scenario in which the doubled letters could have occurred at the same time as the damage. Looking at it, I'm equally curious about what could have caused those two dents as the letter doubling. I'm sure that's quite possible. Rob would be the bloke to answer this. Hopefully, he'll give us his opinion.

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Mmmm. The pricing is VERY optimistic indeed, isn't it. Spink quotes £150 for Fine. I think you're right in your estimate, probably even less. If you want it you could always make a cheeky offer, especially if you wait until near the end of the listing time when it becomes obvious to the seller no one is going to pay the opening price.

The 1717 may be worth even a tad more than that. If you paid less than the £70 Arthur, you did well.

Good question Dave. I would guess that's post mint damage?

Nor did he tell you what was his favourite pizza. What kind of a man is he? Likes dates on his, apparently? Very strange! ...and a milled edge. Though given a choice he'd probably prefer a bun……. Yup, he likes to Wyon and dine...

I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered? Thanks for that. Very interesting, and something I'd not considered. I hadn't noticed a shadow 'I' either. Do you mean slightly angled and just to the left of the Tertivs 'I'? if it is it would probably also be in alignment with the wonky lower V'.Reaching for my loupe... Yes, there's also what looks to be a shadow of a letter, maybe V, after the S too?You could be right. I hadn't noticed that either. Hard to tell if its the shadow of a letter or simply surface wear.

Variety being the spice of life . For early milled Scott and Rob are the experts here.

Excellent advice for you from Stuart there, Arthur. Colin's site will provide you with lots of detailed information on all major varieties from 1760 to 1956. Colin Cooke's collection (which I gave you the link to) is a great place to learn about the earlier stuff. I'm sure you'll enjoy the forum. There are people here whose depth of knowledge is truly astonishing and who will always be happy to help and advise you on building your collection. Regardless of grade respect to you for finding a 1717 dump farthing with which to start. Most impressive!

I'd say it's not a variety, but rather a die identifier...it looks to me, especially as you can also see the shadow of an 'I', that a coin got stuck in the machine and damaged the die? Or, and I don't know anything about this, do they reuse (grind off [not completely]) the old dies, as they sometimes do with hammered?Thanks for that. Very interesting, and something I'd not considered. I hadn't noticed a shadow 'I' either. Do you mean slightly angled and just to the left of the Tertivs 'I'? if it is it would probably also be in alignment with the wonky lower V'. Reaching for my loupe……...

Hello Arthur. You can find out a lot about farthings here: http://www.colincooke.com/coinpages/ccc_frontpage.html

Has anyone seen one of these before? It isn't listed anywhere as a known variety. V over a much lower V in Tertivs. Not simply a double struck letter. The underlying V is way out of alignment. Apologies. The condition isn't great, but the variety is very clear. Your thought please? Ta.

The UNC has wear to the cheek, neck, and hair. Nick is correct. Each coin is marked one grade higher than it actually is. Don't worry about it. We are all here to learn.

He should join the forum.

The 'Do Something' supplement which comes with today's Guardian is on the theme of collecting. It includes this:

Happy Birthday Paulus. Hope you have a good one.

Nor did he tell you what was his favourite pizza. What kind of a man is he? Likes dates on his, apparently? Very strange! ...and a milled edge. Though given a choice he'd probably prefer a bun…….

No worries. Got it. Thanks.

Looking for a second time. I'd actually probably say the opposite. Near VF reverse and a little less for the obverse.

When grading, don't forget the golden rule: 'Is it selling, or is it buying?'…….

Apologies Scott. I'm probably being very dim here, but I'm even more confused than before!

Near VF obverse. Slightly less than that for the reverse. You were right to question this, I think.