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Probably true!

They sound like estate agents! '... abjectly original coin grey (sic) surfaces and electric teal ...' What the SMEG does that mean?

Damian, if you don't care what year you go for, 1887 and 1902 will give you the highest grades for your buck in both crown and florin, And if you want the very best examples, an UNC 1887 Crown will cost you £150-£200 and a 1902 Florin £110-£150. Buy these from a reputable dealer, not an untrusted eBay seller!

Don't know if the word 'antique' is legally binding, normally (I think) it refers to items >= 100 years old ... anyone know the unofficial but accepted equivalent for 'vintage'?

The Colin Cooke one shows as 'sold' - wonder what it went for? Neil, are you allowed to say?

Someone (I forget who) was asking about Coin Fairs down south ... I have been sent a flyer that there is one here: Chatswort Hotel Worthing BN11 3DU Sunday 18th May 2014 Admission £1

Somebody complained because the coin had lustre? Too nice to list on eBay or what? That's nonsense. All sounds a bit bizarre to me, like sending a coin back because it was EF not VF as advertised!

LC's description doesn't seem to add up, somehow... "Proof ESC 247 UNC" - is that meant to be two grades, or the strike and then a mention that it wasn't circulated? The London coins one was definitely a proof, I viewed it. It was ok but had a few marks and cabinet friction on the high pointsAs a buyer/collector, if I chose to buy a proof, by and large it needs to be FDC or very near so. If I was a date or proof collector I may accept less than that if it was scarce or rare. The wear on the reverse of this proof coin (however it came about, 'cabinet friction' is a euphemism for 'wear' to me) renders it totally undesirable to me, each to his or her own I know!

Very French, and nice David Yes, I like that one Scott!

Whether it's that one or not, I don't like it at all! Proof or not, it is unattractive and has way too much wear IMO!

My guess is around 1.5x to 2x this estimate. So about; 1817 £100 to £160 1821 £120 to £250 1823 £90 to £160 But what do I know For those interested, they fetched: 1817 £130.00 1821 £227.22 1823 £175.01

Welcome NKOTB, I am in South London too but haven't tried car boots. Chris' offer is genuine by the way, with no strings, in case you were wondering!

Unmolested (UM) is a new grading abbreviation, as announced by the RSPCC (Royal Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Coins) last week, do keep up Clive!

The reason I suggest more for the 2009 is that it contains the Kew 50p, which are still fetching much more than a few weeks ago (although not as much as that crazy weekend after the RM announcement!)

Agreed

Couldn't agree more ... be even better still if we could get a few more major dealers on and reps of NGC, PCGS and CQC (fancy joining the debates Semra?) ... maybe they are already!

cant be right its got the scottish lion on it.............. Horrible design by the way! I thought there was going to be a competition for the reverse design??

A bit more for the 2009 I imagine!

Sam Fox is old as Peck and a carpet muncher. Spoilsport! Us old gits still need some fantasies left. Wouldn't that be a fantasy for you then Dave? So sorry about all this Debbie!

I think that's an excellent point Rob. When rarity is measured by 'how often is this coin available to buy' it's always going to be an imperfect measure, but what is a better one? Perhaps we should add some questions to the 10-yearly census! Worldwide?

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Thank you - much appreciated. Would that be Spink 2799? How would you grade this - I thought AVF? F - GF for me, but hammered is not really my area!

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