Paulus

And (perhaps) so was that of PCGS?

Yuk yuk and yuk again, whatever the grade ANYONE dreams up, that coin has zero eye appeal for me!

Welcome Tony, it doesn't look like CGS have any either!

Did you have something you wished to contribute Stuart?

and C1 HC are also more affordable too... Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time During the Civil War, a halfcrown was the daily rate for a cavalryman who had to keep his horse as well as himself. A foot soldier was paid less, but variable depending on the weapons supplied. At the beginning of the war he might have been paid more than a shilling (Byron is noted as paying 1s3d in the early days), but as time progressed that rate came down to either 8d or 9d. It was always a case of supply and demand and business-like once the initial euphoria of raising troops to fight for the just cause had subsided. The troops were not however paid on a regular basis as shown by the troops returning from Ireland in the winter of 1643 who had not been paid for two years. Pay arrived when you found a suitable opposition supporter's house to plunder, or the local population acquiesced to the levy imposed - never a foregone conclusion. Thanks Rob, I was sure things couldn't have been cut and dried in those very turbulent times! One of the most fascinating periods of our history, and the story is told in coins perhaps more than any other era

Just what I was thinking ... and I think we are representative!

Good strategy Sword. Take time to learn what's average condition and what's not. Then when you spot something particularly pleasing .. go for it. Unless it's a Chas I shilling of course! I have a feeling that my first hammered will (eventually) be an Edward VI shilling or Chas I halfcrown. Hopefully, VF, full flan, nice portrait and well struck A C1 HC is a proper chunk of silver, something to hold, a lovely series of coins! The E6 shillings are certainly pretty, but ordinary by comparison!and C1 HC are also more affordable too... Agreed, I love mine, it isn't perfect by any means but clear enough and I find myself transported back when I hold it, since I have read that they would be a typical weekly wage for a soldier at the time

The listed sale price is the same as my maximum bid price. I'm not sure how Noble works, but with many auction houses room bidders take priority. So it's possible someone won the coin from the floor. The 'my bids' section of the website suggests I've won and I've emailed for confirmation. We shall just have to see... I suggest you will always win it at your maximum, which is why I will only put in a pitifully low bid or not bother any more. Sounds like good advice Rob ... aren't the auction houses subject to some sort of scrutiny/audit around such things?

Ah yes, I have your website bookmarked! Nice rare 1658 Dutch crown!

Welcome mh, where are you based and what is/are your focus area(s)?

I would like to see a split between gold, silver and copper/bronze too (not sure where tin et al would sit!)

EF-GEF for me, too much wear on the hair and braid for higher

Seconded!! Thirded. I really don't think it's worth leaving over Dave. Plus it would be a great loss to the forum. Fourthed - please don't either of you leave!

Agreed.

Here we go (lol!)

If you say so!!Do we need to continue this in members only, Paulus? lol, can we avoid being moderated in there?

If you say so!!

2 years what Stuart? Abstinence from coin buying?

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Nope, lost the plot now

Okay, lets try this then (voted best drummer): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKhfkfnbAMQ

Don't know any more! Things appear to keep changing ... !

Best live version of Ripples IMHO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1Fu-fFjd4M

I think that's a good idea Sword! Not just useful for newcomers either, I think it's at least as big a topic as toning

I have ALWAYS wanted one of those, it can sit proudly among the coins in my Westminster and Pobjoy collections ... please can I ask that members show restraint and not bid on this item?