Coinery

There was a thread on here somewhere discussing the correct codes, it might be possible to pull it up?

Lovely coin TG! I couldn't 'connect' with your last acquisition, but this one is fabulous, a really pretty coin, it has great 'balance'!I can't grade hammered at all, the variables are just too great to calculate a numerical value which, so called, defines a coin's overall quality! It can be such a small thing that rockets the eye-appeal heavenwards and, it's in that zone, that there is no grade, just a beautiful historical item such as your's! Nice one, you must be extremely pleased with it!

Yes, my top bid was over hammer, so very pleased to get it cheaper, especially as my bid was cheeky in the first place! Edit: the reserves were a little silly! £120 reserve for my lot, which was won at £660 with juice! I think that was really cheap for a rare-bust Liz shilling from an old collection!

Looks less dramatic when face-on (what happened to the other images?), die fill or post mint damage, nothing significant really! Keep looking, and keep posting!

For it to be a blockage, you'd be looking at an ultra-ultra-hardened 'ridge' of metal being perfectly aligned up the vertical of the die's T! Edit: the vertical component of the T looks wider, and the curvature/angle beneath the left horizontal also looks reduced, suggesting post strike damage, rather than die deformity! You'll probably find a 'folded' edge along the left edge of the vertical, the shadow also suggests this?

Oh, dear, oh, dear!

They have been very good with invoices in the past. Generally posting the day after the auction by 1st class post and so I guess it will be tomorrow or Saturday at the latest. I didn't bid this time but had a look at the realised prices of some lots. Many of their estimates are way below hammer prices. Look like that's the norm with them. Ahh, OK, I'm waiting on an email invoice...I guess the post is more 'proper' like!I agree, their estimates are way below, I think they mostly are...but their hammer prices are generally rather agreeable IMHO

All's silent on the W&W invoicing front! Might have to phone tomorrow!

Thanks all, think you are right - an optical illusion, looked very real in hand I agree there is a very slight difference with respect to alignment with border beads, see exergue line and sea behind Britannia - nowt of real significance though, possibly slight difference in overall size of britannia, suspect reduction processes produced slight variations You must be due to find a biggie!

Agreed but, taking a closer look at the point 5 beads down from the tip of the toe, does the bottom (straight) line of the waves pass over the bead in one image, and into it in another? Of course, grade would be king in verifying that, but could be something for those with lots of pennies and penny experience to verify or reject!

3 Times! And he still left his stock unattended in a car!

So, anyone ever submitted bids at W&W online? What's the timescales on confirmation of successful bids, I'm guessing there isn't a 'prices realised' list to refer to any earlier than being contacted?

Hi Tim, Take a look here http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/7880-posting-pics/#entry84861 and see if this helps you out? Let us know if you need to understand anything further and we'll all chip in to help? Welcome aboard!

England? Twere'nt bad, I enjoyed it! Sad that Scotland aren't in the frame, it would be great for the overall competition to have them in the mix! Really glad you're enjoying the coins, good on your grandad that he's shared this all with you!

Totally agree! I'd definitely start from both ends with a penny collection!

Welcome aboard, Jim! Always good to get some new blood on here. There are plenty of Victoria Bronze AND silver specialists frequenting the forum corridors so, once you've clarified further, you'll have no shortage of people wanting to discuss and advise! Enjoy the ride!

Nor I! I might possibly buy a pint, but I'd be as burdened as a pack horse when doing so!

I could back money on it! Maybe that's what I should do in future, get a bet placed with William Hill to cover the overspend?

Maybe I'm just unlucky with the Spink's guide then as, whenever I see something at auction that I really want, just for me, which isn't often, it always sails WAY over the Spink guide!

Just as a point of interest, I wonder where Spink's is gathering its data from to catalogue the Low-Tide Penny at £175 EF and £325 UNC?

I've sold three now in excess of £200, and a couple just under, I think they are more popular than people give them credit for! Here's the last one I sold! http://george-coins.co.uk/UNCAU-Edward-VII-LOW-TIDE-1902-Penny-P3139016.aspx

Not bad considering it's not even a sixpence OR milled! It's difficult to have sympathy for someone who blindly bids on eBay coins without even the basic read-around to distinguish denomination and differences between hammered and milled! Even though it's a pewter coin, it's still a reasonable representation of type, ie a 'hammered' threepence! Interestingly, about three months ago, I got my second warning from eBay for 'unsolicited emails' when I sent a polite and, what I thought, helpful link to a genuine example of type (not one of mine, I hasten to add). After my previous (dog cage) suspended sentence from eBay, I now just race in there, grab what I can, and get out, knowing I'll need a good shower to rid myself of the dirt afterwards! Edit: just realised Dave's and Peter's coins aren't the same...hence ' not bad' I was referring to £58 for the pewter 3D...terrible isn't it? I just paid less for a really nice genuine Rose/Cross-Crosslet penny! (glad Rob only paid it a passing glance!)

You'll of course never know the depths and good-naturedness of this forum that I have come to personally experience but, suffice it to say, a more decent bunch of good chaps (and occasional chapesses), you will never find!It's unlike any other forum I've visited! Edit: it's unlike any other societal experience full-stop!

My instinct would be that, due to the small size of the punch, weak strike would be a rarity in itself, especially when you see how the strike affects the reverse? Far more likely that high-grade host coins have good countermarks, unless of course the punch gets extremely worn, which of course has no bearing on grade (only eye-appeal)!

And that is another damned good reason for collecting in that area! Hammered also photographs as easily as copper and bronze, though!