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Another note: The profile of the bust is different! There is a 90 degree, or greater, angle beneath the nostrils where it meets the mustache in both the collection coins, giving the appearance of a slightly turned up nose...unlike the LC coin! I think the angle of the eyebrow to socket angle differs too! Edit: I retract the above...I've just been overlaying the busts using transparency, they are a pretty good match!

The greater the resolution however the better chance there is of cropping the original image, re-posting it, and still being able to see what's actually there, when someone says 'can we have a closer look at the ribbon!'

Very crude copy, I'd go modern souvenir piece at a guess?

As Nick mentioned, I think the cape is a massive giveaway when viewed 3 in a row! Edit: the missing pleats are below the area where you'd first expect to see wear!

Unfortunately, I couldn't do much with the contrast to investigate Rob's point but, whilst I was playing, I thought I might as well post the following, just to make comparison a little easier. All images are top to bottom...Bentley Collection Coin, Bruce Lorich's piece (http://www.brucelorich.com/archives.html), and London Coin's item. The Dates and Tails are all scaled and orientated to 90 & 180 degree lines, so as best as can be achieved given the pixelation! What are your thoughts now?

Welcome B'field, not my area unfortunately! Instinct has me say it's unlikely an investment hotspot...and would have me thinking not much more than was paid initially, if that????

All I can say Pies is it's a big old pain in the arse!I'm waiting on the arrival of some 18% grey sheet to start tinkering with my White Balance, as this is the key to professional pictures IMHO! It's certainly where my own photography is suffering!

There's a sticky in beginners on posting pics!

Surely a blocked die has got to be hot on the list...pictures would be great, of course!

Can have a look later, Rob, when I get in!

Spink's warn of forgeries for this date! Would be good to see some examples of it! Wouldn't it be easier to doctor an Aussie 1917coin? '25 would be the cheapest British coin to butcher I suppose?

Sorry, Azda, the 1 AND the 7 appear/are dropped! Not sure why the 1 would be tampered with if it's a date change, though?

We should all buy it and get CGS to slab it!

I thought the general consensus was 'if that's fake, we're buggered for these too'?Apparently he was told the day of the auction that LC had got it wrong and it was kosha. But i asked the question if anyone else was told in the auction room about their "mistake" I hope the seller was suitably re-compensated. Interesting point, that! I wonder whether the Cromwell was bought in as fake? Or sold for the vendor?

If Steve runs with this sale, I'll lose a lot of respect for LC, there is no way that isn't a suspect coin! I wouldn't mind betting it's a cast date-change myself! The tail and date are so out of character, it can be nothing else IMHO! Unless of course, the rarest sov. is about to kick up the greatest numbers of varieties for any of the series! It may even be cast in 22 carat gold, and why not, I would if I wanted to do a good job! Not that they have!

Oh, boy...I'll get my coat!

Eye watering, but true!!! Unbelievable...we are fools to ever think we know it all, and that life is straight forward!

I just don't see what purpose they serve overseas (or here, for that matter), why would somebody want a fantasy piece, when they can get something genuine?Is it a gift for relatives scenario abroad, on account of "what else do you buy them", or is it ignorance to the fact that 'genuine' coins are still in existence? I find it odd! Even stranger than the immeasurable "thunk" that is the coin collector!

Oh, B'Jesus, they come in varieties and die-pairs? Edit: Oh, Gary, no, not you AND Peck?

I think you are being overly critical here, there are also Scarce AND Superb coins in the inventory!

I'm waiting for my second instalment, I think it's in this lot. I think you're right, it's the third piece in at 4 O'Clock! Good spot!

18-omega-5!

Great for those who wish to buy coins in instalments!

We ALL love 'em, just haven't the capacity to study everything! This forum wouldn't be the forum it is, if we couldn't read about something new! I personally love the variety 'diggin' in' even if I'm lost!