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1. is early Roman. S C on the reverse is the giveaway.

Most VIP proofs wouldn't cost any more than a common uncirculated larger silver Victorian coin - say £500 to a couple £K, so we aren't talking megabucks here. In fact a lot of people are prepared to spend far more on currency coins than they would have to lay out for a VIP proof, particularly in the penny department. When you say pennies, Rob, I can't think of any dates where a VIP proof would be worth less than a currency coin. Unless I'm misunderstanding you?

That bottom penny is a ringer for the two brassy ones I had! I think they are troublesome from a collection point of view, as they really stand out like sore thumbs! Almost as 'brassy' as this one (which actually is brass):

Did any one see this one? I did bid all I had, but all I had wasn't much at the time so I got my arse justifiably kicked. Is it what it says it is? It doesn't really matter - the winning bid of around £20 was a pretty spectacular bargain even if it was the bog standard 1865! Wish I'd seen it, but I don't go to Australia eBay I was just thinking the same thing ~ and yes, I'm almost certain it is a 5/3. Note to self: drop in on e bay Australia now and then Nice spot! Sometimes I get little time to check eBay uk, let alone Australia. I must be more vigilant too!

I've successfully used it several times. It's only available live, at the time of the sale. I seem to remember that having registered on the site, I still needed to phone up to actually be set up for bidding the first time, but I may be wrong. Certainly worth a phone call to check if you're seriously interested in any lots.

It's not the best photo, but the oblique stroke of the '2' can be seen poking out below the centre of the '3'. Question - how are they so certain that's a 2 and not just a die flaw? Michael Gouby describes this possible overdate in his book and includes photos showing the central 'spike'. He overlays a normal 3 and 2 with Photoshop to produce an identical result to the potential overdate. He's as sure as he can be, but certainly not 100%.

It's not the best photo, but the oblique stroke of the '2' can be seen poking out below the centre of the '3'.

Now there's another gap in my collection! Two gaps in mine!

and me. Got the 1893 and 1874 F72 ~ which two did you get ? I got the F67 and the F79. Unfortunately a couple of others I would have liked had already gone

Unfortunately I've got nowhere, though I have been told that the British Library(?) has a copy of all the catalogues and that it would be possible to view the relevant one. I've just not had the time to do this recently, but will eventually contact them.

The 1893/2 penny is so difficult to spot that it is no wonder that it went unnoticed for so long. I can be shown a close-up of one and STILL probably won't see it. I don't even know what we're supposed to be looking for on an 1893/2, as I've never seen one. I know there is a pic of one in Michael Gouby's "The British Bronze Penny 1860 to 1901†Victoria specialised edition book, but I haven't got it, so I've never seen one. I also know there are different font 3's for that year, which add to the confusion. It would be very interesting to see one, and to be aware exactly what to look for. The threes look totally different on the two that I have. Better late than never: My 1893/2 (they really are hard to spot!)

Been so busy with work recently that I've barely had time read this forum. Anyway, Bob, that's a really beautiful example! I also picked up a couple of coins from the Edinburgh collection and am very pleased with the quality. I spoke with Neil at the time and understood that the term 'Edinburgh' was simply used to denote a Scottish collector who wished to remain anonymous. He was amassing a collection of the very best examples and wouldn't consider filling spaces with poorer coins, hence some glaring gaps. I got the impression that he had either lost interest or run out of steam and decided to sell the collection. He chose Colin Cooke given their track record with the Workman, Crocker and other sales.

It looks to me like Freeman 4+D - the one you saw was probably 6+D which is a little scarcer than 4+D. It's always harder to tell on a specimen that worn, but I would say F15 is the likeliest one. Obverse 6 was the first one with a reduced gap between the top of the bust and the teeth - yours is clearly earlier. It really is incredibly difficult to be sure when virtually all the identifying signs are long gone. I might even plump for F13 (3 + D) as the front of QV's bust meets the rim vertically. On the other obverses the bust meets at an angle. Beyond that I'd really not like to say.

I got my invoice through the post a few days after the auction. They do have a few problems though.... check this out

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

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I've taken a look. Basically you need to use their main website to decide which catalogues you want to view as there are no further details (like auction dates, general contents or even location) on the app version. Interestingly, some catalogues on the app. haven't been released on their main website yet. Having downloaded a catalogue the navigation is really only suited to an iPad, the buttons & text are just too small for the iPhone. If you really are stuck with only an iPhone, though, it's just about possible to get the details of an individual lot.

Thanks! I'll try it.

These type of 'offers' always remind me of the brilliant spoof ads from VIZ magazine

It's almost possible to comprehend why someone could confuse 'lustre' with 'polished'. Probably only 20 points off an IQ assessment for that. But to describe it as 'uncirculated'.....?

The Tide ishould be level with Britannias Hermeline, it was bidded on accordingly though, maybe a Little to high because someone who obviously does'nt know what a 2mm actually looks like, or the seller Here's one of each for comparison:

Either wear or a partially filled die. For some years (1920 for example) these are quite common and not generally considered collectible.

Is this reply in the right thread should it be in a parallel universe? What has wine, steak, a couple pints and the Midland got to do with a forecast for 2013? Sorry, confused. LOL I think Peter was saying (and oddly enough, I sometimes find it a challenge to decide) that we could all have a great meeting if we all got together to discuss coins, the future and so on. And of course, what's the point of meeting up if there's no food and drink to chat over, eh? As for Geoff's post, while I agree .. mostly, coins for me are things to enjoy. Yes, when you're on a tight budget the cost and eventual resale value is of some interest, but if I regarded my collection as an investment it would look very different! So my plan is to continue as I have been recently, seeking out those coins I believe to be scarcer but under-rated, upgrading where I can, but most importantly, buying coins that I will appreciate and be happy to live with. And if, in the end, I have a collection that is barely worth what I paid out for it but which gives me pleasure to look over it, I shall consider the money and time to have been well spent! I'm certainly up for any meeting however, as us southerners appear to be in the minority, it's likely to require a hike to the Midlands or somewhere equally remote! Geoff's collection is stunning. Every coin would grace the very best museum collection. Even his only copper penny just happens to be an 1827 in UNC... not something you see every day.

Nice idea but it immediately raises a few questions for me: If it was run like a company, would taxes need to be paid and annual paperwork filled? would a solicitor need to be hired? If no one has the greatest share who makes the decisions? I suppose you could vote on which coin to buy next but there will always be some that aren't happy with the decisions. Also what happens if members want to keep buying coins and other members can't afford to? When do you sell? what happens if a member loses his/her job, retires or wants to sell up and cash out? Who is going to run the operation? if someone runs it will they be paid or do it for free? If they get paid do all the members chip in to pay them (this will be an additional ongoing cost). I would imagine there would be a fair amount of work eg. emailing, meetings, phone calls etc.. especially if there were many members to correspond with before any decision was made. Where would the coins be stored? Is there a max budget buying coins (for example if you asked around some members could maybe afford to chip in £100 others only £1000) There are probably more but those were just off the bat. There appear to be two versions of the idea on the thread. My original suggestion was for a number of people to get together to fund the acquisition of an important and prestigious British coin (there are a number of obvious candidates, this 3d just caught my eye). The other, much more complex, version of the idea that has emerged seems to be along the lines of acquiring a portfolio of coins. The absolute minimum for either of these versions to work would be to appoint solicitors and set up a website. The structure of the venture would be determined prior to it being launched (by the enthusiasts who would fund the initial outlay), therefore additional members would be opting in to something. If their circumstances or opinions later changed they could of course opt out by selling their share. A website would solve many of the organisational issues by acting as a communication hub (as well as many other functions). I personally would only sign up to something like this if it were run on the basis that the coin(s) are owned equally among all members (although some members would, out of enthusiasm for the enterprise, have a greater degree of administrative involvement). Hus is unfortunately right. Even if it was an idea which could attract the necessary number of 'investors' it would have to be run on a legal and commercial basis, probably taking all the fun out of the idea (and costing a fortune) in the process. There just might be an investment business (much like the one run by Stanley Gibbons for stamps) for a keen entrepreneur to create, but I frankly doubt it.

Port and kippers? Euwww. Peck you should go for it.Everything cancels out for an afternoon lovefest. This really is TMI, Peter!