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Another beautiful penny Bob. You're putting together quite a collection! Much nicer than mine which, for comparison, is:

Just about ready for the influx of family tomorrow. Happy Christmas to you all!

If you're serious about a small claim you shouldn't have to travel to the seller's local court unless it ends up with him wanting to defend himself in person. The simplest way is for you to use the internet based Court's Service at Money Claim Online. This service is actually handled through the Northampton Court and will only be transferred to a local Court if the defendant requires that. As part of the process, before reaching a judge in Court, you can both enter into mediation which, if your claim is justified and relatively straightforward, should result in an early settlement. With a bit of luck he'll just pay up before reaching that stage though.

You've already provided the answer, but i was going for MS67 Joking, of course! MS62 would have been my estimate.

Thanks for the info ! I tried putting a pic of each side on here but it won't let me. I have no way of knowing if it's an authentic (what does that actually mean- could it have been minted like this in error?) The thickness of the coin appears totally consistent with other pennies of the same age (I got a little box full from carboot sale) It is exact in every way to the others in the box except for the obvious, in size, shape, thickness, colour etc The figures are at alternate rotations if that makes sense Either way it's really bizzare and mindblowing to think it's been around out there all this time ! Is this a frequent happening and is there a market for such things? Thanks for sharing your insight I would imagine it's been altered. Look carefully at both sides and most likely you will see one has been hollowed out to receive the reverse from a coin of the same year. Another giveaway (certainly on mine) are the three (or possibly four) marks on the rim where it was held in a lathe while the work was carried out.

1. is early Roman. S C on the reverse is the giveaway.

Most VIP proofs wouldn't cost any more than a common uncirculated larger silver Victorian coin - say £500 to a couple £K, so we aren't talking megabucks here. In fact a lot of people are prepared to spend far more on currency coins than they would have to lay out for a VIP proof, particularly in the penny department. When you say pennies, Rob, I can't think of any dates where a VIP proof would be worth less than a currency coin. Unless I'm misunderstanding you?

That bottom penny is a ringer for the two brassy ones I had! I think they are troublesome from a collection point of view, as they really stand out like sore thumbs! Almost as 'brassy' as this one (which actually is brass):

Did any one see this one? I did bid all I had, but all I had wasn't much at the time so I got my arse justifiably kicked. Is it what it says it is? It doesn't really matter - the winning bid of around £20 was a pretty spectacular bargain even if it was the bog standard 1865! Wish I'd seen it, but I don't go to Australia eBay I was just thinking the same thing ~ and yes, I'm almost certain it is a 5/3. Note to self: drop in on e bay Australia now and then Nice spot! Sometimes I get little time to check eBay uk, let alone Australia. I must be more vigilant too!

I've successfully used it several times. It's only available live, at the time of the sale. I seem to remember that having registered on the site, I still needed to phone up to actually be set up for bidding the first time, but I may be wrong. Certainly worth a phone call to check if you're seriously interested in any lots.

It's not the best photo, but the oblique stroke of the '2' can be seen poking out below the centre of the '3'. Question - how are they so certain that's a 2 and not just a die flaw? Michael Gouby describes this possible overdate in his book and includes photos showing the central 'spike'. He overlays a normal 3 and 2 with Photoshop to produce an identical result to the potential overdate. He's as sure as he can be, but certainly not 100%.

It's not the best photo, but the oblique stroke of the '2' can be seen poking out below the centre of the '3'.

Now there's another gap in my collection! Two gaps in mine!

and me. Got the 1893 and 1874 F72 ~ which two did you get ? I got the F67 and the F79. Unfortunately a couple of others I would have liked had already gone

Unfortunately I've got nowhere, though I have been told that the British Library(?) has a copy of all the catalogues and that it would be possible to view the relevant one. I've just not had the time to do this recently, but will eventually contact them.

The 1893/2 penny is so difficult to spot that it is no wonder that it went unnoticed for so long. I can be shown a close-up of one and STILL probably won't see it. I don't even know what we're supposed to be looking for on an 1893/2, as I've never seen one. I know there is a pic of one in Michael Gouby's "The British Bronze Penny 1860 to 1901†Victoria specialised edition book, but I haven't got it, so I've never seen one. I also know there are different font 3's for that year, which add to the confusion. It would be very interesting to see one, and to be aware exactly what to look for. The threes look totally different on the two that I have. Better late than never: My 1893/2 (they really are hard to spot!)

Been so busy with work recently that I've barely had time read this forum. Anyway, Bob, that's a really beautiful example! I also picked up a couple of coins from the Edinburgh collection and am very pleased with the quality. I spoke with Neil at the time and understood that the term 'Edinburgh' was simply used to denote a Scottish collector who wished to remain anonymous. He was amassing a collection of the very best examples and wouldn't consider filling spaces with poorer coins, hence some glaring gaps. I got the impression that he had either lost interest or run out of steam and decided to sell the collection. He chose Colin Cooke given their track record with the Workman, Crocker and other sales.

It looks to me like Freeman 4+D - the one you saw was probably 6+D which is a little scarcer than 4+D. It's always harder to tell on a specimen that worn, but I would say F15 is the likeliest one. Obverse 6 was the first one with a reduced gap between the top of the bust and the teeth - yours is clearly earlier. It really is incredibly difficult to be sure when virtually all the identifying signs are long gone. I might even plump for F13 (3 + D) as the front of QV's bust meets the rim vertically. On the other obverses the bust meets at an angle. Beyond that I'd really not like to say.

I got my invoice through the post a few days after the auction. They do have a few problems though.... check this out

I collect pennies but am not aware of anyone really collecting misalignments, other than as an interesting curio. To be honest, I rarely check alignment so whilst certainly not common, it's hard to accurately estimate rarity. Interesting all the same, and a good spot!

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I've taken a look. Basically you need to use their main website to decide which catalogues you want to view as there are no further details (like auction dates, general contents or even location) on the app version. Interestingly, some catalogues on the app. haven't been released on their main website yet. Having downloaded a catalogue the navigation is really only suited to an iPad, the buttons & text are just too small for the iPhone. If you really are stuck with only an iPhone, though, it's just about possible to get the details of an individual lot.

Thanks! I'll try it.

These type of 'offers' always remind me of the brilliant spoof ads from VIZ magazine

It's almost possible to comprehend why someone could confuse 'lustre' with 'polished'. Probably only 20 points off an IQ assessment for that. But to describe it as 'uncirculated'.....?