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Thanks to all for the Birthday wishes. I am having a good day! Anytime in December that it isn't snowing, in Indiana, is a really good day! LOL!

Nice upgrade David. Merry Christmas to you also!

Happy B-day John! Many Happy Returns of the Day!

I knew you would like this one Dave...I sent some coins to Heritage to sell, and they responded about one of them being in a CGS slab...They want to crack it out, and have it re-certified by NGC! I told them to send it back to me, as is! That tells you a little of what the USA sales market thinks of CGS! I don't agree with that however. I think Heritage just has a love affair with NGC (and PCGS and ANACS).

Attached are samples of a well struck coin, and a weakly struck coin. Both of these coins are lusterous uncirculated, but there is less detail on the weakly struck one. (my camera does not show the extremely shiny surface, but both coins are very shiney, and uncirculated). You can notice in the middle of the coin (the highest point), there is loss of detail, which means the coin was not fully struck. Additionally the head, and the center, lower skit lines are not as clear on the poorly struck coin. Usually a poorly struck coin is due to either die wear, as the die ages, or a coin that has been struck with less pressure, as might be in the early punch press setup, for the start of a coin run cycle.

I don't think the train stops in Indy anymore! LOL!

I got this medal (heavy, Crown size) last night at coin club for $5.00. Did I pay too much? Ha,Ha....

Happy Birthday Paulus. I hope you have a great day!

I have a feeling Michael will be doing a update on his book, one of these days, he can add the newly discovered varieties then!

David, I noticed your coin was a small date, but I didn't notice that Gouby's coin was a large date (the coin pictured in his book). He doesn't show the small date (with the cannonball), that I can find.

David, Gouby lists the dot below the "I" in Victoria, as BP1875Cd, and the cannonball to the right of the ship as a BP1875Ce. Although your cannonball variety is not as pronounced as the Gouby example (because of the die crack), the dot on your coin is in the exact same spot as the BP1875Ce. At the time of the printing of Gouby's book, he knew of only one example of each of the coins you show.

I spoke to Michael Freeman about the 1870 "Dot" Penny, in the picture. He said that while he did notate the coin in his book (footnote #16), he did not assign a number to it because he had never actually seen, or examined one, and that was a prerequisite for listing in his book. btw...the coin was sold for $595, to advanced collector in the UK.

Here is one very similar to Gouby's Cannonball, only further up the coin, below the "Y." I recently sold this one.

I noticed that also Copper. That is probably the reason for the rejection. Still, a very nice example.

Copper, Here in the USA it happens all the time. I bought a nice mule farthing from a dealer at the recent ANA show for $20. He had it marked as a 1860 farthing. I have since sold it for 10 times that! So it does happen, even from experienced dealers.

We like you too Peter!

Happy Birthday Stu...

There are no examples shown in Gouby's book! However, the Arabic "1" was used on all pennies, beginning in 1895.

That one is not a Mule. Your coin has toothed borders on both sides. Here is a Mule.....

It's not so much a conflict of interest, as they're the same people! In other words Stephen Lockett et al. Since CGS is grading the coin, which in turn determines what valuation category the coin will reside in, then that same party owns or controls the Auction (or sale)...then that condition creates a sale that is not "arms length" in nature! If a sale is not "arms length"...the sale has a conflict of interest! It is the same way in Real Estate Sales. The American Housing market went South as a result of this same condition, when the Banks also owned the Appraisal Company (conflict if interest) that valuated the residence for sale. As a result U.S. Government backed loans now must go through a middle man, between the Bank and the Appraisal Company, Called a AMC (appraisal Management Company). The AMC provides a buffer, or independent Party between the Buyer and Seller. I don't think this buffer exists at CGS and London Auctions.

Haven't heard of, or read the book. Though we do have some CIA agents!

You get a vote to leave the UK in November. I thought you had already done that? Rob, We left The UK in July...not November! LOL! Our General Election is in November. When does the Scotland vote take place?

You guys are really getting into some heavy stuff! When is does the voting take place for Scottish Independence? Ours is in November.

That's a really scarce one! It is a really strong strike, but does have a odd coloring. Maybe chemically cleaned? Either it is cleaned, or his camera light setting is set wrong. Nice coin though!

The penny is certainly the least rare of the three 1860 copper coins. Spink has the Farthing and Half Penny at about twice the value of the Penny. They show the Penny (EF) at 3,750, and Unc. at 6,000 (pounds). Still the Penny is not "Common!"