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Welcome to the dark side Paul

Sent yesterday, so should be due back around Christmas 2016

Bernie has one, i'm sure he put it on the forum a few years back

I did watch feom the begining and a smile came across my face as lots were going unslod. I was interested in 2 lots, the first was just a little too much for me just now, the 2nd i was surprised at, lot 153 estimate of £150-£200 which at £200 was Spinks guide for the grade, straight off the bat £400, my jaw dropped

Hi Happy, it's not my collection, but a member of this Forum. I think one of the diagnostics is Britannians thumb Points downwards and the waves. If you can turn the coin around so Britannia is pointing the right way round and get as Close as you can without the Picture blurring then maybe someone can also help as i'm about to head to work. Someone will come along soon enough to help as there is many penny collectors here

You'll find one in amoungst this collection to compare against http://www.mycoincollection.co.uk/

Stewie recently asked/phoned CGS about postage for Someone in Hong Kong? And got back £12 which he was surprised about due to value? Maybe he can remind us because then that means value plays no part. Here's the thread Stewie started a week or so ago http://www.predecimal.com/forum/topic/9722-cgs-l1375-for-coins-under-l200/

And another reason to send Prax

Well at 60 euros it was a great price, but obviously the dealer did'nt know what. He had which we could then turn the arguement around and say obviously not everyone knows the variety. I'm only trying to get the submission fee correct as it seems a bit cloudy and am not getting into grading companies and grades etc If I was to pop my clogs tomorrow and the Frau had to get rid then who's to say another dealer or buyer who actually does know what it is makes a low ball 60 euro offer. For the British varieties its better in my eye to have this done this way to maximise it's potential regardless of whether I dislike TPGs or not (I'm sure most of you know my thoughts on them) It's like having a large estate but no will, just looking out for any future eventualities

Well i'm going to send it in at the lower level as i paid less than £200, only reason being is that if I sent it elsewhere it would just come back as an 1860 halfpenny and not the rarer 1* + A that it is I also noticed on their website that it takes up to 30 to turn around a hammered coin yet up to 90 days for milled, I would have thought hammered had more diagnostics to take into consideration than a milled and would therefor take longer

It might be easier to say WE grade coins from say 1850 at the lower rate and before that at the higher rate, to make it value dependant is a Little curious

Is'nt the value your purchase value though, this is what is confusing, so if a copy invoice of the purchase was sent, how could they then increase The fee? I know its a technicality but you could be spending more money than you in theory should be. The other point could be made if you overvalued it over the £200 threshold and that was your purchase price, they then grade it at less but yet you've paid £23,99, will tgey tgen take less? Lol

Lol yes, meant 1860

Well if it came in at UNC grade Rob, their value of the 1960 1*+A halfpenny is £500 I paid 60 euros for it

You must add all costs on the submission form Though Pete

So what if i also sent the invoice for the coin that states i paid the 60 euros, how could they then increase the price when the can see the price paid.

Just a curious question to those who have used them before. On the Submission form on the right Hand side it gives you an example of Denomination and variety etc, in there it gives also value, this is where it gets confusing. The value of which i bought coin X was 60 euros, now if they grade it at say UNC and its a variety of which in their UNC its valued at 500 GBP. Now, for coins valued at 200 GBP or less the Price is 13,75 GBP but over 200 GBP is 23,75 GBP. So i'm assuming you add the value of which you bought the coin because their value cannot be brought into the equasition because it's not been graded. cgs_submission_form.pdf

I wonder if they'll be selling siege coinage in their shop, you just know what's going to happen to some of it if that the case

A picture can sell a coin Neil, a little more time on them may improve business, if you want, send some over to me

There really is no secret Hazelman, i always take pics outdoors, use the highest macro setting and a steady hand. A nice coin always helps the picture, patience is always a virtue when coin collecting, although i'm no always the patient collector

Ok, my last word on this as i feel we've picked enough at the coin. Neil, you need better quality pictures, i don't think the setup you use is good, pictures are bright and this particular coin seems lifeless, i use natural daylight and use a mixture of both a light background and a dark one, sometiles A darker one is good for silver, but in this picture the coin does look cleaned. GVF grade, well it perhaps might be more, but if i were to settle for every coin dealers grade or coin sellers grade my small collection would be littered with inaquaricies, i'm basing an assesment on a picture that i already assume the coin has been cleaned, minus points in my mind, digs, also minus in my mind, overall it might be nearer EF, but the 2 minus points makes me drop down to what i would pay. Please remember, this is how i review the coin and i'd rather be harsh with myself than buying a coin that would sit for a few months only before i'd get pissed off with it. A coin has to for me also look appealing, and if it looks lifeless then i'm going to be harsh and walk in by. P.s, i've also seeb a slabbed proof as low as 55

At the time of the OP i did'nt know who the coin belonged to and as everyone says, we all have our own opinions, and again in my opinion it should'nt be an aFDC grade, it has far to many problems, nor should it be an AU grade fro the same reasons, i gave it my opinion of grade based of the pictures and from those it has been cleaned and has some field digs. Mark, your fascination of my opinion is also welcome, see above paragragh for my reasoning, we all buy coins from auction houses and we don't get to take them home on approval beforehand, so pictures is obiously what most have to go by, Neil, i think we spoke before on another thread about my Edward VI shilling compared to yours and you mentioned you needed to get your photographer to sort them out, i'd still say the same now, the pictures are'nt the best, i throw up pictures the size of dinner plates to receive any grumblings of a coin i've purchased so i can learn should i try and upgrade I guess some peoples opinions will differ, this will always be the case and it should'nt be taken to heart, but as you can see Neil, no one agreed with your aFDC grade and at the time no one knew who's coin it was, so it was'nt an attack against you, it was the grade opinion that was asked for and not an attack on the seller, we are all here to help one another and when it comes to grading NO ONE is going to agree, especially on here Try and chill and i agree with Mark, i'd like to see more of your posts

Its no more than a GVF, AU should never be mentioned with this coin, i may have to locate some silver to sell you

Really? ^ ^

£1k plus juice in Fine or a NEF @ £1450 plus juice according to Damian' first DNW link, i know which i would go for, for a few extra £s