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Stuart, you've hit the nail on the head. No picture but an easily accessable PCGS number, pop the fake into the fake PCGS holder (which are kicking about now) and Hey presto another piece of Shite kicking about

A good point well made Dave, and a reminder that we mustn't put a premium on slabbed coins or drift towards the US model that seems to trust these grades without question and rely on them, it will end up putting me off collecting to be honest if that's the way we go in Europe Paul, never rely on a TPG, especially an American one. Rely on what you have learnt from the forum and your own judgement of grade. I've personally liked many coins but put off by grading, with overgrading comes OTT prices as can be seen by this topic

My iPhone is spelling for me Mr Peckris

I'd get thar bad Boy slabbed by CGS

There is a Benchmark Paul, its called your own judgement. Just because its behind a slab with a Ticket does'nt mean you or anyone Must agree with it, and in this case we all agree the Ticket grade is bollox

That is the big problem with slabbing companies that don't insist on good quality images! CGS are as bad, a lot of their images are just token gestures, totally underexposed and blurred at times, as good as useless. Any 'jasmine' slabbers would surely be trawling the TPGC sites looking for the unidentifiable images and using those slab numbers on their own slabs, wouldn't they? I think slab buyers, and slabbers, should begin insisting on quality images, especially when dealing with milled coinage! I just bought a slabbed coin that looked much better in the hand than the photo had suggested it would. CGS had used very directional lighting that highlighted a surface flaw that 'in the flesh' was almost invisible to the naked eye. On the one had I was glad but on the other hand I know that their pic could be a problem if I come to sell it on. Although to be fair to them, even a bad CGS photo is almost always going to be better than a good ebay photo. I Take it you have'nt seen my photos then? My own opinion but i think my poctures represent my coins 100% accurately warts an all

It'll probably be sat there for a while. Thats terrible grading from NGC, obviously they're to relaxed with their standards or someone has a friend who works there

Was trawling and came across this. 1st question, is it genuine? Anyone have access to the PCGS database to check the serial, if so, is the coin pictured the same as this? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREAT-BRITAIN-FLORIN-1902-SILVER-PCGS-PF63-MATTE-/370597879621?pt=US_World_Coins&hash=item56495adf45 If genuine, then fine, if not, slab collectors should be worried. Matt Proof, but seems to be quite heavily toned. Looking back at Pies Matte Shilling, there's quite a difference, so just curious

I think he has a doll figure of me somewhere John as he's changed his eBay name again

Ahhh Sorry Stuart. Here in Germany we get massages on the NHS. I have a problem with my neck and spine, normally the discs are 10mm apart, mine are only 5mm due to working at the airport at one time throwing 20 kilo suitcases into the hold and very little room to do it. So now i get massages to try and stretch the 5 & 6 neck disc. I did try the Chinese guy to though, he was much better but cost €35 for 30 mins which was'nt on the NHS unfortunately and he kept sticking needles in me

It's an "erb".mannnn. If you like Oriental/Asian food you've had some. Ahhhhh sooooo, Stuart thinks the 1850 shilling pic i uploaded is Chinese? Very cryptic, but i'd love to hear the theory why.....

Patchouii? Whats that?

1850 Shilling

I have an 1850 pocture fron one i sold a few months back, i'll post it after i'm done having my massage

You never mentioned the NGC grade, although American TPGs are a little less strict than UKs grading service. You can use photobucket to Upload your pictures and post the links in you reply.

Maybe its a fake counterstamp. Its possible that a counterstamp was used in modern times to stamp a colonial coin, dunno, maybe its just me.

Here's one i had

I don't know why, but i think something is wrong with this. The counterstamp for a start looks shite for a coin that is supposed to be graded as UNC. The 9 in date also looks wrong somehow. Anyone else

Its the PO Stuart Not an insurance company who really do Rip you off. I've Never had to claim from the PO and hope i never have to, but i'll Pay for the exact cover i need to cover that eventuality and worry about the Rest later

I mean evidence of your FINANCIAL loss, not loss of the item itself! Namely, your receipt for the purchase of your crown, which is hopefully less than you sold it for. I think you may find that this is the amount you can claim, not the £10K someone was silly enough to pay for it! I would imagine in the £46 category they ask few questions, it wouldn't be commercially viable to follow up all the claims (probably a random sampling to meet the insurers criteria, possibly) but, in the £500+ bracket, they'll be checking I bet? If i insure for 1300 quid, thats what i'd expect to recover. Evidence is evident where it was sold, not where bought from.

I think there's a 60 day wait. Of course evidence can be provided as at that level the coin must be signed for, it would also be Special delivery, so a signature or pick up from the PO with signature could be easily verifief by the PO and a sucessful claim made.

I Sold a gothic crown about 3 months ago and was asked about insurance, i said the item was worth £1300 and so I had to pay £13,50 postage for the appropropriate insurance. So i think times have changed Stuart and when you pay the correct Level of postal insurance you Claim the same back if lost by the PO

At £48 i'd only send to you at stated postage if i knew you, which she obviously did. I normally write into the postage details that if a coin reaches £46 or above that it must be sent signed for and insured at a higher cost of £5.50. On another note, why are all her auctuons private? Not everything is high Grade or rare.

I've bought a few good bargains from this seller (probably from errors like this one), until I had a disagreement about postage! I bought two coins separately, about £20-30 each (Recorded postage charge on each)and, when I came to pay...Special Delivery charges for combining! I said, then please post them separately at Recorded Delivery, that would be much cheaper for me! I couldn't make them understand that I should BENEFIT from buying lots of coins from them, not be penalised, grrrrr! They did get sent SD, I didn't pay SD though! A shame for them, because a fair number of their coins would have burnt and died in the past, but for my enthusiasms (?spelling)! That's what you have to remember when you upset an ebay buyer, they could be making you money, even when they lose! I've used that seller.Never had a problem.If you didn't pay SD why get upset? I used that seller a lot so, in part, that was the issue! I could understand how the charge seemed logical for them initially but, in the context of my repeat custom, and email suggesting that it would be MORE logical for me if the items were posted separately (as I bought them separately, in the knowledge I'd be paying RD), in light of their desire to levy me 'additional' charges to combine! I'm sure if anyone bought a book from amazon, thinking the postage costs were fair, and then later went on to buy a second book, only to find they will now be paying nearly double postage on BOTH books, simply because they now weigh over a kilo when combined! Even if you argued the point and rightly only ended up paying the original charge per individual book, you'd still feel more than a little grumpy with the company principle, particularly if you'd spent a lot of money with them over the last couple of years! So, not upset, really, just irked by the tick-off on the invoice, and their general philosophy on the matter! The problem with the postage charge is, if a coin is over 46 quid, or you have bought 2 coins going over that price ebay and PP urge sellers to insure anything over that amount, its there to protect the sellers from ongoing fraudlent claims. I had 1 guy last week ask where his coin was, it turns out i had uploaded the wrong track number for the coin but still had the correct receipt for his coin, i checked it online and he had signed for it 4 days previously. I wrote back to him and said that it was my fault, i'd uploaded the wrong number and gave him the correct one and asked him why he tried to rip me off as it had been signed for 4 days previously, needles to say i never heard from him again and he's now been added to the arsehole list

Plenty here http://www.londoncoins.co.uk/?searchterm=1739+shilling&searchtype=1&page=Pastresults