So the guy in question who owned the coin has linked this thread to the one over there. So to him i'd ask the same question. Why is it that the ugly toning ONLY seems to happen when Americans have the coins? Why is it they are SO defensive when some people say the toning is artificial? Why is the slab number SO important, you collect a coin not a slab? I can pick up a few slabs, Throw a number on it and sell you it if it so pleases you. The other question i have is directed at another poster who commented that the slab number was low and he reckoned it should have been a point more, errrr can you or he explain how you differentiate between a +1 -1 point, what are those huge Tell Tale signs that the point should have been added or subtracted. Honestly, some of you American collectors are so f**** anal its unreal, i'd have hated to be the dog in the house that day when it came back 1 point under graded. Then other thing i'd also point out is that an expert in British coins gave you an appraisal of AU and you were'nt a happy collector, you people have a LOT of learning to do. Rant over, put your Blinker back on and the Crash helmets, sign up here and join a real debate about your artificially toned coin