davidrj

"Care in the community" has a lot to answer for. Im new here so thanks for introducing me to this bloke got to love this one, ebay No 370831082109. Mint lustre specially created with a piece of Scotchbrite!!! whilst being held with a pair of pliers! But folk are buying this rubbish for silly prices! see this 1870BB 5Fr piece £205 is a reasonable price for EF+ but this coin struggles to make Fine (€22 in TB25) the ribbon is just visible on the neck The minimum criteria to make VF (TTB45) a €30 coin, requires the point of the moustache to be clearly visible But then I'm just using the grading standards from Le Franc

I've pulled three off Ebay (2 are now with fellow forum members) Still not convinced there is only one die involved. So thought it worth a closer look Does the non-Gouby hollow neck exist? ............................................................................ and what of the alleged hollow neck 1912??

Apologies for my bid Scott. 99p would have been sweeter

lol must have been in cahoots with someone I reckon, doubt that this was a genuine sale! What are you doing watching such c**p anyways?! I believe it was a Gouby X whoever bought it well spotted! Nice bargain too!! I had a close look at that one and decided that it wasn't a Gouby X Definitely Gouby X, I was the underbidder

Nice one, thanks

Rigato - (reeded edge) catalogues at €300 in BB (VF), €1,700 in SPL(EF) in GIGANTE 2013 Liscio - (plain edge) catalogues at €800 in BB (VF), €1,600 in SPL(EF) in GIGANTE 2013 combined mintage 599,000

I have no knowledge of Jersey coinage, but the coin pictured is definitely the result of a cracked die. It is pretty common for die cracks to roughly follow the baseline of the legend as this one does through "ELFT". JerseyCoins is a mine of information - die varieties etc David

If memory serves David it sold for a little less than £3k, give or take £2990 less wasn't it?

Bought mine off John (argentumandcoins) a bit since

Correction Canada & Straits have issues for 1872 with the H (heaton) mm

My copy has 5p on the cover, which came as part of a larger parcel of books. It's a super little reference volume, even if only 40 pages of less than A5 size. My copy came today and is also priced at 5p Useful info on the dies and, more importantly, the die pairings known - possible a cheapish project to track some of them down Interesting to note these bronze coins were not minted by the Royal Mint, but contracted out :- 1864 Henry Jay & Co 1868 & 1874 Partridge & Co Never heard of these two before . The Royal mint used Watt & Co and Heatons for 1860-3 UK bronze (also without mintmark), Watt & Co also used for Hong Kong bronze cents It would appear no mintmarks appear before 1874 on any UK or Colonial Bronze coinage - I wonder if any other stuff was farmed out in these years prior to the major refurbishment of the RM in 1882?

Can't be done - decent stuff sells, but the crap gets continually recycled via "free listing" weekends Rob, Peter - you both miss my point, I'm not complaining about the relisting BUT recycled listings make any attempt at statistics impossible. Court's suevey is valid because his samples were on the way to the melting pot - ie no coin was counted twice

Nice example! well spotted

In his (1972) article he states "the project started 4 years ago" but they knocked off for 6 months to do halfpennies - never seen any results from that survey though Pity he didn't include the veil head Vicky pennies either - there were still shedloads of them in circulation at the time Can't be done - decent stuff sells, but the crap gets continually recycled via "free listing" weekends

1) 1909 is a relatively scarce date to begin with 2) the 1909 F169 is far better known - being in most price guides 3) Also the 1909 F169 is much harder to spot because the reverse border teeth disappear quickly on worn specimens - so probably a higher grade is needed to identify one compared to the others. I'm certainly still looking Also my perennial complaint re circulated 20th century issues on Ebay - generic photos and only showing one side of the coin still need 1908 F164a too!

Thanks Rob, just ordered a copy from Galata for £8 (a lot cheaper than £50+ for Pridmore )

Reeded edge - almost certainly Straits

I've just bought a copy of Spink's "Coinage of Scotland Ireland and the Islands" (2003) and was intrigued by the entries for the 8 Doubles of Guernsey - (probably the most boring of all the world's 30mm bronnze coins) 1864 (5 obv, 2 rev dies) 1864 3 stalks 184,736 1868 (5 obv dies) 54,720 1874 (4 ov, 2 rev dies) 73,248 1885 H 69,696 1889 H 215,620 1893 H (large or small lettering) 117,600 That seems a lot of different dies for such tiny mintages! Checking Remick's "Coins of the British Commonwealth" , he refers to Pridmore's "Coins of the British Commonwealth of Nations Part 1 European Territories" (1960) for details of the dies Does anyone here have access to a copy of this reference please? or any other source for die descriptions?

Not a mule for me

Definitely a design change in my view

Not really a recessed ear at all really - its the area around the ear that's recessed - the normal bust is convex, whereas the resessed ear type has a definite concavity - best seen if you view the coins at an angle Once you know the difference, you can spot them a mile off, even on badly worn examples

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??????????????????! Surely accepted wisdom is that the broken tooth is diagnostic for the recessed ears. do we know of a contradictory example??