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I'd still love to know what would have happened if she'd publicly refused to give up the non dom tax status. Would he have been expected to order her to do so? - trap there just waiting for the unwary individual who made such an implication. There are faults and corruption wherever you look in politics, not just on one side. Blair took us into an illegal war which killed tens of thousands, and ends up being Sir Tony. He doesn't hold the green card any more, and whilst it was incompatible with his position that he did, the fact he gave it up before these "revelations" renders the point somewhat moot. I can't somehow see it firing public anger.

Spot on there. We badly need a viable and strong opposition to keep the elected government in check. We also need to know what Labour are for, not just what they're against.

OK, so just thinking about the Rishi Sunak affair, doesn't this bring into focus to what extent a politician should be held accountable for the actions and opinions of their other halves? Do we expect them to be in perfect lockstep, or do we accept they are two separate individuals with their own ideas? I mean supposing Rishi's wife, Akshata Murthy, had refused to change her tax status and gone in front of the cameras to say what she was doing was legal, adding that it was to her financial advantage to keep things as they were, and she wasn't taking orders from anyone, including him? Should Rishi have then immediately resigned? Supposing Jeremy Corbyn's wife, Laura Alvarez, had publicly declared herself a Tory and gone on to say what a huge fan she was of David Cameron or Teresa May? Or if Philip May had criticised his wife for the police cuts back in 2014. Or back in the 80's Denis Thatcher had declared himself left wing and expressed his profound admiration for Karl Marx and Michael Foot. Possible examples are legion. What I don't get in the current instance is why Rishi's own judgement is in question for his wife's personal choices. With some of the sanctimonious crap that's emerging from the media, you might be forgiven for thinking that we'd gone back a long way in time, and she was thought of as a mere chattel, ready to do his bidding at the drop of a hat.

Richard, would you be interested in the one we talked about in this post from April 2020? ETA: although if there is any protrusion, it's certainly not top left, as with Ian's example, more top right.

I've never counted the number of teeth on an 1864 crosslet, but the last 4 can appear in different places. Most notably as slightly more distant from the remainder of the date, faint and somewhat blurry, like this one. I have actually seen one worse than that. I don't think anybody but the most ardent specialist would care, especially given the general rarity of these coins in high grade anyway.

Thanks Gary.

I knew I'd heard about this before, but couldn't remember where or when. It concerns the rumour, started in the late 19th century, that a gold ingot had been accidentally added to the metal mix for the 1864 penny blanks, and that consequently some 1864 pennies had gold in them. It became a craze which spread over to as late as 1907. David Pickup wrote an excellent article about it in the July 2021 edition of Coin News, if anyone is interested in reading about it.

Hi Ian - yes that was a really interesting, if still totally inconclusive discussion. I don't think we'll ever know for sure.

No idea what the raised line you refer to is, but the coin is certainly is an 1858/? Some say it's an 8/9, others an 8/3. Not attributed by Peck, but Bramah (page 107) describes as follows:- This type is not especially rare, although I've never yet made out the two dots referred to. The knob and vertical line are clearly very obvious.

Somebody's 'avin a larf with that offering. Is it the comic relief bit of the auction?

Pretty much exactly what I thought. It's logic Jim, but not as we know it.

To add to what @Rob said above, the other very obvious failing of Putin is his lies. Nobody can trust a single word he says, so with regard to any negotiations either now over Ukraine, or in the future over anything else, he will be on the back foot, as nobody will take his stated commitments seriously.

Very pleased to have captured this absolutely superb 1857 Bramah 23a penny (no serif on 7 of date) in not far off UNC condition for a very reasonable sum. There are two very slight marks, one just under underneath the date and the other to the immediate back of the Queen's neck, but apart from that it's flawless. Seller sold as date only example, and to be honest, it would have been cheap even for that.

Don't think it's gone too well for them. Not a cool look for the school bully when the weak kid in the playground starts slapping him around unafraid.

Always worth looking at. Cambridgeshire Coins are very careless and don't seem to look for rare varieties. I once noticed that a Freeman 148, 1897 high tide penny in GEF with lustre, had been sold for £75. If only I'd got there first. Seen other examples as well. You'll never see a Freeman reference on their site. Welcome to the forum sixtiesboy.

I agree.

Yes, the King's cheek is afflicted by multiple tiny abrasions - looks like no shave stubble. As you say, worth about a tenner, and once again we see that absurd premium placed on quite ordinary coins by virtue of their being slabbed.

Very clever, and a little bit like this so called Freeman 189, 1920 penny

Right- sorted !!! I did firstly try calling the local ASDA store, and the person I spoke to didn't know what I was on about, and asked me if coinstar was a new app. I then did what I should have done all along, which was to google it. This link explains it fully and very clearly. Obvious once you read it. Reject coins are just left to pile up in the reject tray, and anybody quick enough can nab them.

Right, I'll go and check it out. But to be honest I've still no real idea what the set up of the machine is, or how you pulled the coins. Still a mystery to me. I'll report back. I might ask one of the staff.

No, I'm just curious about the set up on the machine. Is it just there to be taken? Sounds odd that you can just go up to the machine and take it without anybody saying anything, that's all. I mean if there's one in a local supermarket here, I'd be interested to know how to get them myself.

Right - so you as ordinary Joe Customer can just detach the reject box of your own volition and walk off with it? That doesn't sound quite right. Sorry, there's something I'm not quite getting here.

Better join the Kennel Club then........someone of your pedigree would get straight in, no arguments.

Everyday use of a pre decimal penny

hmm, indeed. Or how did he get the "reject box"? What's that all about?