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Thanks Jon. The best one to date, is the specimen which sold at the September 2014 LCA, and can be seen here

I can get into featured collections now, and into the individual collections therein. But somewhat bizarrely, some of the coin pictures are missing. Here's a link to the 2006 Laurie Bamford collection:- https://www.noonans.co.uk/auctions/archive/special-collections/162/

I'm afraid those bland generic responses irritate me even more than no acknowledgement at all. Totally meaningless, totally dismissive, and totally never hear anything again.

I reckon the sub text of that Richard, is that they don't know what to say, and don't want to admit they've messed up, even though they must know they have. These days, for whatever reason, sorry seems to be the hardest word for almost all organisations. They will literally make excuses for the totally indefensible, or stick their fingers in their ears. As you rightly point out, their reputation will take a hit, not the least because you will be very far from the only one complaining. The lack of any response is just plain ignorant.

I'm thinking of the general search tab they had at the top of the home page where you could type in any date/denomination and it would bring up all of that type that had sold, over many auctions. Was incredibly useful.

Another thing I've noticed is that there is no search facility on their new site. Or if there is it's bloody well hidden. The search on the old site was actually quite good.

Whilst not in the same league as the last couple of pennies, I was nevertheless quite pleased to obtain this 1903 open date. It's only GF, but is much better the the VG example I've currently got. Was well worth the upgrade as it is very difficult to obtain any 1903 open 3, above a well worn VG. Although I am aware there's a very nice GVF specimen out there.

That I have, Ian. I've not forgotten - and thanks again.

In its way, that's almost as good as the F90. You hardly ever see an F77 on offer, and that one's surely got to be in the top 3 known.

Indeed. I bet you'd easily be looking at five figures for an 1877 narrow date in that condition.

hmmm, possibly. Although it is very rare, doesn't come up often, and that one is problem free in higher grade. The last one I recall on offer was a much inferior example from Coopers Coins for about £800 and something, back in 2020. I don't think I'd regard it as a complete rip off.

Pretty decent specimen.

Didn't see that. What sort of condition was it, Ian? Do you have a link to it?

No live bidding yet, but on the plus side they do still only have 17% buyer's premium.

Does he want any particular coins?

I did say I was willing to give members first refusal in my post of 21.2.20 above, but nobody responded. So after over 2 years, I gave up and sold it elsewhere.

Finally sold the F176 above through Kleeford Coin Auctions on 29th April, along with one or two other minor spares. I'm pleased someone (hopefully a collector) got it for a decent price, as I did - was the only bidder. Leigh Rose's old fashioned auctions have coins with very reasonable estimates, and don't tend to attract big buyers. Scrolling back through this thread, and in particular, the links to other threads, I've just realised that it was the same F176 which forum member Gary D had slabbed 8 years ago. When you click on the thumbnail, you can see that the coin and CGS number are the same ~ link

I think Michael is in a minority of one anyway, given the 6 likes and one screwed up face Dave got for the design on his wife's book.

Cover looks OK to me - it's not something I would take a lot of notice of anyway. I don't buy books for the covers, I buy them for the contents. The cover would neither encourage nor put me off buying any book.

Well very much so, Ian. I've seen one so far - in August 2020 - which I bought as a date only specimen, immediately. I think it's actually a bit better than the one DNW (sorry, Noonans) are offering. Although there is a carbon spot between Britannia and the trident. As you say, they are really difficult. Don't think I posted it at the time, so here it is:-

Nice specimen. I got one last year - not quite as good as yours, but not too far off - for just £4.64. Scarce, rather than desperately rare, although obviously going to be difficult to find in higher grade. Gee found 8 out of an identifiable 372, which is about 1 in 47. That compares with 1 in 846 for the F169. link here

Bit disappointing, as is the June LCA. But there is another "Noonans" coin auction on 15th June, so relatively hard on the heels of the 24th May event. Hopefully it'll be a bit better, penny wise.

yes, that's all you get when you type "Noonans" into search. Amongst other current shortcomings related to the new website, really unprofessional on their part.

From memory (went there in 1999) isn't that the cathedral in Palma, Majorca? I may be wrong. Either way, I do hope you had a great time. Thanks as ever for the info Ian, and it appears I owe @oldcopper an apology as he was right all along about the bronzing being done post mint. Obviously Peck is a huge tome, and it's easy to miss very relevant bits. Oddly enough the thought that there might have been a deliberate attempt to bronze post mint, to make them appear as proofs, did cross my mind. Actually, the 1839 bronzed copper proof is one of the few Victorian copper specimens I haven't yet been able to obtain. I keep looking out, but the odd ones I have seen weren't in especially good shape, and they were being sold at what seemed exorbitant prices. Maybe they were worth it, and it was me under estimating their worth. Not sure. Haven't got any of the other proofs, but counting 1839 nominally as a regular year, as the proof is the only example from that year. Probably still worth collecting one or two bronzed examples as of historic value. Adds another chapter to the story, as it were.

I think we can be pretty much certain that there was no mint gilting of copper after George III, but we know for a fact that official mint bronzing definitely continued for proofs, and did so well into Victoria's reign. By logical extension, therefore, I don't think we can rule out officially bronzed versions of currency issues.