Gary D

Right foot, best thing for cats.

we went metric long ago Peter, do you mean cm's ? We haven't any now, just spent an hour sweeping it away. Not quite up to the the window sills here in Suffolk.

Erm and are you trying to tell us something ? And there's me thinking that life was something you went through will you wait for something better to happen. And on a completely different note, I've just had this lovely letter today from Works and Pension telling me I've got to work another nine month before I can get me pension. f~@#ers

I'm think the whole of the united kingdom should get a vote.

Thanks Gary, that's wonderfully inconclusive as it quotes rates of both 5 & 20% without differentiating which should be which. Little wonder there is so much confusion. I had assumed that with Spink et al charging 5% for years that was the rate, but clearly it depends on which line is used from the list. So folks, if you get charged 20% VAT, refer customs to commodity code 9705 00 00 20 and then 03001 and point out this is what all the auction houses use and have done so for at least 10 years or whenever the rate was enacted. As it refers to gold and silver coins, there is a danger that copper/bronze/tin etc could be subject to 20% import VAT. Perhaps a call to HMRC Tariff Classification Service Enquiry Line 01702 366 077 for clarification is in order. I got passed around a bit but the concensus was 5% Have a read here. 3.4, 3.5, 3.6, 11.3. And if you can't sleep there plenty more. http://customs.hmrc.gov.uk/channelsPortalWebApp/channelsPortalWebApp.portal?_nfpb=true&_pageLabel=pageVAT_ShowContent&id=HMCE_CL_000199&propertyType=document#P452_59689

Thanks Gary, that's wonderfully inconclusive as it quotes rates of both 5 & 20% without differentiating which should be which. Little wonder there is so much confusion. I had assumed that with Spink et al charging 5% for years that was the rate, but clearly it depends on which line is used from the list. So folks, if you get charged 20% VAT, refer customs to commodity code 9705 00 00 20 and then 03001 and point out this is what all the auction houses use and have done so for at least 10 years or whenever the rate was enacted. As it refers to gold and silver coins, there is a danger that copper/bronze/tin etc could be subject to 20% import VAT. Perhaps a call to HMRC Tariff Classification Service Enquiry Line 01702 366 077 for clarification is in order.

The HMRC site is not the easiest to navigate, luckily it's the Businesslink website you need businesslink.gov.uk. If you search coins you will come up with chapter 97 heading 9705 and finally the comodity code 9705 00 00 20 (for gold and silver coins) Follow this link and all will be explained. http://tariff.businesslink.gov.uk/tariff-bl/export/commoditycode.html?export=false&from=heading&id=9705000020&simulationDate=22/01/12 When you purchase a coin from outside the EU just ask the sender to put this code on the customs declaration. Of cause if you don't want to pay any duty don't use the code

But that still doesn't explain why coins in UK auctions that are sold by non-EU residents attract the 5% VAT instead of 20%. As I said before, the 5% rule was in force last December, so barring a change in the law over Christmas/New Year, this should still apply. I still suspect that someone somewhere in customs or their agents doesn't realise that coins are taxed at a reduced rate. I vaguely remember someone saying it is something to do with them being classed as collectables or artefacts, but can't think where I read it. As far as I'm aware coins fall into the same catagory as antiques and are only subject to 5% VAT. no customes duty. Rather than just put coin etc on the customs form you should put the customs comodity code for that artical on the form then no confusion. The codes are available from the IR website.

I bought one sometime ago and wasn't able to see a whole coin with it.

Nor me, just the 2010, but did get a super 2010 Florence Nightingale in my change today, 1st one I've seen David I'd have preferred a nice Katy Perry or Beyonce in my change, Florence is getting a bit old and wrinkly now for my taste.

Grained edge means the same as milled edge. Your's is a belter of a sixpence, but I don't have any clue whether it's a specimen or not. I would say not. If you look at the obverse rim it wider than the specimen and uneven width, wider at the top than botton. The whole idea of a specimen strike is to take extra care when striking and use specially prepared dies.

Well done. I haven't heard anything from them, so I'm guessing I was unsuccessful. Pity as I left quite a few bids. My invoice arrived in the post out of the blue so may not be too late.

Is that a dot in the middle of the trident shaft to Bob? I heard of a dot being on a penny there, can't remember if it was the 1922 or not, but never seen one on the prong before.It needs a bath of olive oil Dave, What you see on the trident shaft is a light contact mark. I do need to somehow contain the staining...it is also on the reverse. The last time I used olive oil, it darkened the coin, which I don't want to do. Any other ideas?..... Try a different brand of olive oil, something slightly more acidic.

Well I got my two lots, one at my max bid and the other at £5 over estimate. The first lot was maundy coins so they should be UNC but the other lot of sixpences are described as generaly EF or better. Will be interesting to see what turns up. Hopefully a couple of upgrades amongst them.

At £450 each I wonder if they sold numbers 50 thro 500

My link

I have now discovered that I have the article published in Coin Monthly February 1979 - "Survey of 20,000 Florins" by Ron Stafford. It runs to around 8 pages which I could scan and upload here one-by-one, if you're interested. All the 10p varieties known up to 1978 were included in his results, with illustrated examples of each type. Hopefully there are no copyright issues with doing this, as CM ceased to exist nearly 20 years ago? I'd quite like to know exactly what the copyright situation is for this publication. Somebody on here, a few months back, suggested that it would be useful if the entire series of CMs could be digitised as a resource. I have pretty much all of them right up to early 1992 and have a scanner plus the software and skills, plus time to do it, but it's a huge task and I ain't going to if I immediately fall foul of copyright. Does anybody know? My understanding is that copyright lasts at least 70 or 80 years, and presumably when CM went out of business it was sold to another publisher. If so then they and their descendent companies now own the copyright. However, if it just ceased trading then I don't know what the situation is. CM was published by the Numismatic Publishing Company - Googling it doesn't come up with anything. My thought is that Token Publishing (who publish Coin News) might be the best people to ask? I did scan and upload an article on varieties published in the Coin And Medals Annual 1970. That hasn't brought any comeback. I don't think people care that much in this particular field, but to upload the entire magazine contents over its run - that would be a different matter possibly. If someone tried it for financial gain I think notice would soon be taken.

I should be, assuming everything goes to plan. Did you make it Historic Coinage? Did you see the two Ed VI sixpences? They had been switched around in their sleeves, made me wonder whether this was done by an unscrupulous viewer (being as the viewing is so open, and trust-based). Great auction, very impressed, a very nice family spirit, couldn't have been a more pleasant team. I had a couple of absentee bids. Was the bidding particulaly strong?

Looks like it to me, nice catch Azda Looks like a damaged C to me. If you look at the O it thins top and bottom whereas the broken C only thins were the gap between the upper and lower jaws should be.

I'm sure that one sold on ebay sometime last year, or it was one very similar, the price has jumped considerably though, at least 200 quid if it's the same one What I've seen a couple of times and would like to get hold of a one is the Lords Prayer engraved on a silver 3d. There have been a couple go through ebay but I missed them. i think the last one went for over £30, just a bit too much for a curiosity.

You won't find them in your change cause they're Rare WOW. All still readily available on ebay though.

Byzantine - something like this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/11th-Century-Big-Follis-Medieval-Genuine-Ancient-BYZANTINE-Coin-/220925664516?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3370321d04 Does look remarkably similar. The owner dug the coin up about 30 years ago whilst digging a pond in their Cambridge back garden so was quiet deep.

I was handed this by a work colleague which had been dug up by her father some years ago. To me it doesn't look like a coin, any ideas.

Another quality item from mintstate17!!!!!!!!!!!! Not. Isn't that the very rare "Missing E in ONE variety?" It's actually a 1506 Brent Cross hammered penny. Very rare.

Perhaps it's due to the mint being largely staffed by eastern european works like most industry here in the UK now. My wife works as a QA in a local factory where it's one thing after the next going wrong all the time. A while back they layed off most of the english workers in favour of busing in tempory staff. Once was the bigest employer in the town, now hard to find someone speaking english there now.