VickySilver

Yes, EF a bit soft in strike some rub to brow and rev. was commented on, but looks like some of original lustre still present in areas... Not a clue otherwise about these Indian pieces; the coin does say "India" after all.

Well there are so many variables as had been mentioned. It is possible they may sell better in the US of A and that a firm such as Heritage may not even charge you a sellers comission or may pay you 105%!!!This is not made up and quite true. Also, one point that has not been mentioned is the concept of critical mass. If you have a number of 1k+ coins, if there are enough they may be perceived as a major collection and IMO possibly bring more money as there could be a tendency to bring more buyers; there also may be some lose of provenance if they are sold but a few at a time. If sold in the USA, definately slab but if they are already slabbed and you are determined to sell them in London leave them in the slab as is done many times by Baldwin or St. James and to some degree DNW and Spink. I have never tried to negotiate seller fees in London so maybe others could pitch in....

OK, excuse the caveman image but here is the obverse.... 1922obv0001.bmp

Yes, that is a Specimen64 brown from NGC. Fair amount of red and a satin/matte finish...

OK, test of another 1922 Image... Horrible quality and needs to be rotated to view; still, a rather nice 1922 entombed it may be though. Special 19220001.bmp

Incredible piece there, I think you've come to spoil us! If I can get picture posting down, perhaps I could add just a bit as well.

OK, stop rubbing that one in! LOL! Please please won't you see if you might at least pull a bit of that verd trace off with at least pharm. acetone?

Thanks for the input on this and good if contributors are able to add to this thread, with rationale. I do not profess to know the hammered series but may be able to add to the more recent milled bits: I have the distinct impression that the free rise (explosion?) in prices of even choice pieces may be tailing off a bit, and although limited in scale, was impressed by the relatively poor performance of some of the Vicky and Ed7 halfcrowns in the last St. James auction - they did not blow up past estimates and I think performed somewhat poorly; to belabor it, the 1905 halfcrown and even moreso the 1904 halfcrown looked from photos to be quite pleasant specimens and prices did not seem to follow an upward trend (I had even considered bidding on the '04). Lower denomination silver just does not seem to draw much excitement even given some of the nice Bole 6ds just sold with only minimal exceptions (Ed8 pattern obverse and silver 1927 proof to some degree).How, for example does the 1923 copper-nickel 3d pattern of a date that does not even exist in currency struggle to make only 2.5k pounds? Florins: how does a "mint" 1932 florin flounder at 350 pounds or so? Many other examples... 20th C. copper just does not seem to draw excitement - even proof VIP issues or choice 1918/1919 H and KN pieces. These coins reach their prices but just do not seem to "catch". The matte 51 and '53 coins would seem to be worthy coins to rise but have not to cite an example. Even 1926ME lustrous red or at least red-brown specimens just do not seem to generate ever accelerating prices. I find it amusing that gold, especially nice proof specimens of the 1937 issue make such prices, but even those have levelled off over the last two or three years (ie the sovereign). These are relatively common but are buoyed at least at current prices for some of the reasons mentioned in the OP. In short, in my opinion, late milled copper and silver are at high levels but may be beginning to slow in growth of prices. Examples such as narrow date buns, etc. are outliers that are sustained by IMO only a couple of well-healed collectors. What say the rest of you?

That sixpence was quite intriguing; the mate in CuNi was known from Norweb. As far as silver, all bets are off but if I had to that would be as to it being 0.500 as the blank planchets of that fineness ought to be more available.

Well, I thought it interesting that coins such as the 1904 and 1905 did not perform better. The '03 might be explained by the fact that it was not a top quality coin. The 04 was from photos a lovely coin and worth a premium bid with the usual caveat that it had to be seen in hand; the 05 was not an uncirc IMO being GEF/AU (pick your poison, or worse yet the possible American equivalent of MS61/2 again from photos). Still, 6k plus including comission quite a bit....

I guess we all wonder how long this balloon can last. About the only place I see softness, somewhat paradoxically, is the majority of coins we see. The less rare pieces in less rare states of preservation. Witness the post elsewhere on this site of a lower state 1902 LT penny going for 99p. Many other such examples but serves as an example. The halfcrowns example I find interesting not only because I collect them but because they are a "collector series", and this may call into question just how many true collectors of such series are out there. Rob, points well made as to the afterhammer costs skyrocketing and making the actual cost of a lot much, much higher.

Maybe these results hold more signifcance to me than others. Is there any chance these halfcrown results of E7 and the two Victorians cited may be a sign of erosion of the price growth in these rarities? Many of us keep looking for signs of any slowup in this latest market, but maybe just not enough examples to draw such a conclusion.

Thanks Rob! Actually I thought a few of the prices were relatively low, but obviously did not see them (1841. 62, 03-05). Glad I was not bidding regardless. Well, low compared to estimates anyway... The 1862 proof usually thought to be 5k plus for example.

How did the Edward VII halfcrowns go in this sale, along with the 1841 and 1862 halfcrowns?

I would hope, although I have seen some very nice florins and halfcrowns from this year - ordinary currency but quite prooflike.

Those look to have currency finishes. Is it so in hand? I think I may have seen one of these sets on ebay a while back, but could have been somewhere else.

Oh, I have to confess that I have two nice '03s and am too lazy to care about a micro-type. Guess ripe for being "cherrypicked" one day.... I still want to see a picture, or better yet an actual specimen, of the 1854 half sovereign. Would not mind seeing a picture or reference pertaining to the 1945 currency silver 3d as well.... Thanks to Colin Cooke for giving similar information on the currency 1952 2/6 (may he rest in Peace).

Going back to prices and relative bargains, GB compared to USA: DNW examples of 1927 proof 6d in (cu)ni and silver just went for 1650 and 3k pounds respectively. The latter I had not known existed and the former I think known by only one or two examples. Also the 1925 matte proof model 6d at 1750 pounds. If these were USA coins, likely slabbed, they would probably have had to go for 50k + dollars IMO!

No takers on this, with facts, opinions, or? I really have not seen certain coins or sets as frequently as they should given the listed mintage figures. I also note that one example would be the 1987 Surinam set which came up for sale recently with alleged mintage in the thousands and one I have never seen before. I believe it brought $150 or so but just stayed on the sidelines.... Where are all the other sets? With the Central Banks, in storage at the Royal Mint, melted, destroyed, or perhaps struck to approximate demand (my personal favourite option but not proven)?

Uhhh, state of current finances would dictate BIAFRAN pounds methinks.... Does bring up the side issue of valuation of coins, pennies in particular and which of the varietals should bring "Moon Money" as they say in the States. If those (and excuse the personal bias in advance) *&^&*()$#@ hypervarietal Buns such as narrow dates and all bring such money will these 20th C. rarities ever catch on? Also, I would like to see a micrograph picture of the date on that 2006 DNW 1922 obv & rev of 1927 piece. I tried to get one locally of an 1882 penny and was quoted a crazy price by the local University. If only I were near to the alma mater where they give near carte blanche access to such....

No, it was one of the two Specimen (or proofs) of 1922 that were originally part of the 1924 proof/specimen set. This def. was the rev. of 1927 but don't remember the obverse. I think it would be only a bit short of the 1933 and might be a 15 or 20k pounds coin.

Think I told you when you originally posted this coin that in the event you ever want or need to sell it, would give it the best of homes!LOL! PS I have seen the 1922 rev. 1927 specimen (proof) that is in an NGC64 holder - looks better. Be nice to have a picture of that in close up to see if it is a true F192A

Wow, I really like Accumlator's piece!

I have to add the 1854 half sovereign. I have never seen it, nor confirmed existence of it even though it is listed in many catalogues. There are those infernal "model" bits which are not even models by my view, but rather souvenir bits. Anybody?

Exceptional 1922 there, where is the original coin?