Bronze & Copper Collector

£100,000 winner here... was between 5p and £100,000... tempting offer, took the chance and won.... If there's a payoff, I'd settle for £10,000 face value in EF or Better, 1860 and 1861 half pennies and half pennies... 10p on the pound..... But worth it for the fun I'll have in sorting the varieties...

I know nothing of the I to bead or I to gap.... I've only used the D in Dei as a guide..... and the difference is quite apparent when you compare them that way.....

The simplest method to distinguish between the 2 varieties is that on the more common variety, the D in DEI points to a border bead... On the scarcer variety, the D in DEI points BETWEEN 2 border beads...... This specimen is only the 4th that I can think of that I have seen...... I've been searching for one for about 3 years now..... I'm sure it is not THAT scarce, but most collectors are not aware of the variety, and therefore don't give an otherwise VERY COMMON coin a second look.... Since it has now been brought out in the open, and since many of you will now search for a specimen... I'll sweeten the pot as I still need a specimen myself.... I'll offer $75 for the first uncirculated example that is offered for sale to me, or $45 for the first circulated example offered for sale to me.... As I only need ONE specimen, AND as the coin may not turn out to be scarce at all, I will not pay that much for a second specimen.... Anyway, this should stir things up a bit...... I also need a specimen with the wider ship/rim, although Michael Gouby doesn't seem to recognize it's existance... and will make the same offer for this coin too.... I'll offer $75 for the first uncirculated example that is offered for sale to me, or $45 for the first circulated example offered for sale to me.... As I only need ONE specimen, AND as the coin may not turn out to be scarce at all, I will not pay that much for a second specimen.... Anyway, this should stir things up a bit...... I also need a proven specimen of F-479... which also may or may not exist, as well as a 1911, Gouby Obverse A, Reverse B... Contact me by PM, if you need to get in touch with me, and I'll give you my email address.... (several of you already are aware of who I am...) Thanks... PS: A HAPPY AND HEALTHY HOLIDAY SEASON TO ALL...... AND HAPPY HUNTING AS WELL.....

Here you go..... CLOSED 3 with a curved down top & a ball end foot .... center bar points down to ball. OPEN 3 less curved top & bottom loops .... no ball at end of foot center bar points along centre line. Thanks Bronze and Copper collector, Once again you have been most helpful, would I be able to use these pictures for reference on my new up (currently in build) website? If so what shall I put bellow the pictures/ Courtesy of "............" ? Regards, Hus Use whatever you need..... Let me know if you need anything else that I might have..... Pictures that is.. not the coins themselves... LOL!!!

Here you go..... CLOSED 3 with a curved down top & a ball end foot .... center bar points down to ball. OPEN 3 less curved top & bottom loops .... no ball at end of foot center bar points along centre line.

It's the uninformed selling to the ignorant.... see this ebay listing..... Item number: 300061214231 http://cgi.ebay.com/VICTORIA-ONE-PENNY-MOD...1QQcmdZViewItem

Does anyone have a list of the different varities and variations of the Birmingham Workhouse Tokens??? Thanks

I just picked up a specimen myself as a adjunct to my Copper & Bronze Collection..... I have the 3p and the 1p both dateed 1813, and am waiting for a 1p dated 1814...... Offhand, do you have a list of the denominations and dates that each were made???? Thanks

My area is primarily Bronze and copper.... I have many of the rarer varieties, granted not all in high grade, but if you need images for display, just let me know what you need......

Bottom line is... a price guide is only that.. a "GUIDE"..... Demand and the individual coin, will determine its final selling price.......

Looks like a split planchet, that is starting to separate......

I personally prefer a brockage with a date, or a unique obverse (such as 1 or 1* on the Bronze series).. Here is my 1878 Penny Brockage.. Here is an example of a scarcer type brockage.... It's a 1961 penny with the OBVERSE struck through a stuck fragment of the trident area from the reverse of another penny... The brockage area (the area of the struck through fragment is incuse).....

AMEN to that!!!!!!!

It's apparently not THAT rare, although admittedly still scarce...... I've owned about 8-10 over the years, between upgrading etc.... and have found 4 or 5 of them...... All in varying condition, from a well worn good to a nice EF+ (US grading standard)..... Much like the F-14, Scarce but not rare....I've also owned about 8-10 of those, and have found all but 3.......

Here are the various H placements on the 1881-H F-108... Also a pic of the VERY RARE F-103

Aside from the obvious differences of Freeman numbers, there are also at least these 4 different variations of position of the H beneath the date..... H Touching 1st 8 H Touching 2nd 8 H Central & HIGH H Central & LOW I have examples of all 4, but haven't had the opportunity to take pictures of them yet.... The description is obvious enough, but if you need images, I'll try to get around to it later on.......

Hopefully we'll all soon get to see these coins. Didn't the Colin Adams sale also have a 1933 Lavrillier pattern penny, which was featured on the cover of the catalogue? Yes.... Could be the same one... I don't know for sure.....

I never saw the collection, but am aware of the quality of the coins that he sought........ PS: The quality of the Colin Adams collection was excellent ( I have his F-21), and this is excellent too.... I'm not sure how extensive it is, although I know it covers quite a bit.....

It's a SUPERB COLLECTION, with some GREAT RARITIES..... Including a 1933

Here's another GEM..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewI...mMakeTrack=trueLink

Safer than actually living in the 12th century and collecting contemporary coinage......... LOL!!

She should for crying out loud, think about it, her image is on more coins than any other person in history. True, but it hasn't ALWAYS been a FLATTERING portrait

Not to mention his dog.... But let's not get into a political discussion..... It can get very messy... LOL!!!! Talk about mangling the English language!!!!!!!!

Not really, even though I have more respect for her than our current president.......

Congrats, many happy returns! Thanks