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That's the man. Splash out on literature. Spend 3 beers worth on a book instead of 1. As an aside and not referencing you as a subject, it never ceases to amaze me how many people consider spending as much as a lunchtime beer with a snack on literature is viewed as excessive and wasted money, when what they spend on coins has several zeros added to the same amount. It seems weird to me that people frequently won't buy the required tools to give them the knowledge required to increase their collection value, which is what they are trying to achieve. Bizarre. Not everything is on the internet, and that which is, is becoming increasingly untrustworthy. Everybody needs to tread more carefully than they used to with AI. A potentially useful tool that you can be guarantee to be abused.
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Victorian 1844-45 Crowns, Cinquefoil and Stars
Citizen H replied to Citizen H's topic in Free for all
now that's interesting, I will see if I can get any further detail from the rubbed one thats a 1844, my spink book was a entry level purchase whilst I was starting to get things sorted....its a 2009 version...and was cheap, 👍I will indeed look for a newer version, all the very best "H" - Yesterday
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Its hard to know what to say with a 1849 penny
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I see someone has bought it.
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Paddy started following Victorian 1844-45 Crowns, Cinquefoil and Stars
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First and third are definitely cinquefoil. I can't make out what is going on with the middle image. Coins of England (the Spink book previously) has a good image of both stops - page 511 in my 2024 edition. Note also that for a long time a star stops version of 1845 was listed, but this has now been debunked and it is not listed in the more recent books. Star stops only occur on 1844 Crowns.
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Looking into when the first Victorian Crown was minted and in circulation got to wondering about... cinquefoil and star on edges If by chance would anyone have images of the star version I believe x 2 of mine are cinquefoil, 1 x ? its rubbed so why Im asking for a comparison. any comments on the crowns I have showing greatly appreciated. 👍
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Plenty of silver types, of which I am looking for a specific one. Without trying to state the obvious, it has cast copy 'written' all over it in the form of casting pits. Even if it was genuine, desirable it ain't.
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There are silvers for both 1713 and 1714, but the portrait on the ebay coin is all wrong. Numista is never reliable. https://www.colincooke.com/ccc_queenanne.
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There was a copper farthing in 1714 with Anne on it. According to https://en.numista.com/13073 There are no silver pattern coins listed. So, yes, I would say that that was an easily discovered fake and that the seller should be considered unsafe.
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I'm not an expert on the Anne pattern farthings!
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Possibly silver, I don't know. A genuine Anne farthing? Not likely. 😁
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That's supposed to be silver??
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Hello Rob and many thanks for getting back to me on this matter, very pleased to have found another oddity 👍
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Could be double struck with another coin trapped in the dies, but equally could be another coin in a different metal in close contact with it in wet, acidic conditions leading to electrolysis (2 different metals in near contact under those conditions will generate a potential difference. Think in terms of a battery. Given the level of corrosion seen, either is possible.
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Same seller: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/287323936829?itmmeta=01KRX7WT4HCDJK4FW405YX1FA8&hash=item42e5d7583d:g:Zh8AAeSwC1ZqAMTQ
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Definitely not the genuine article, but will definitely be the coin in that little group that will catch the highest bidder out, as there’s nothing else in there they could possibly be wanting!
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My thought’s exactly! There seems to be an influx of fake Lizzie halfpennies at the moment, I wonder about this one too with the key over woolpack facing the wrong way and a very uneven border. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/287335422050 Jerry
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Someone’s going to get their fingers burnt! https://ebay.us/m/qPGfJ7
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Sorry to burst your bubble Paddy, but I'm almost certain from the pictures that it's NOT a recessed ear.
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More Pennies
absence of uniformity replied to Prax's topic in British Coin Related Discussions & Enquiries
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It is always worth ignoring die damage on a generally heavily circulated denomination in scarce condition. A few years ago I had an A/R in CAR farthing with weak central areas that I wanted a fair, but full price for on the grounds that I had only traced mine and the Colin Cooke example. Someone I know locally refused to pay so much in the hope one would turn up. Happy to report he's still waiting.........
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Maybe p'ing in the wind as an idea, but given the shape of the three, is it a 3 with a damaged top half, then subsequently repaired with something like a Maundy 7 punch for example? Or any other smaller denomination for that matter? The reinforcing of existing legends is well documented, so to have such an unconventionally shaped 3 is fairly illogical, given the mint officials' mentality at the time. just trying to think outside the box given the relatively conventional lower loop.